On 03-29-15, KEES VAN EETEN said to TIM RICHARDSON:


KV>> Consider the lattitude of Oslo, compare that with places on the same
KV>> lattitude, and read your words again.


TR> Well....how about you check out the latitude of Boston and New York
TR> City...compare them with Oslo's....and *you* read my words again!


KV>Olso is 59.9 North, Boston is 42.3 North. NewYork 42.7 North.
KV>If the latter two whave blizzards, why can't Olso.


Nobody said they couldn't.


You're trying to obscure the point.



And the point is....according to all these `chicken littles' running around
raising alarms over a little warm weather....there isn't even supposed to
BE any snow anymore!


There isn't supposed to be snow in either place according to Al Gore and his
bunch of (now filthy rich) fellow `warmists'.


KV>If you want to look for an American city at the latitude of Oslo, you will
KV>have to go to Alaska.


TR> But but but.....`children aren't even supposed to know what snow is
TR> anymore'!


TR> The Ice Caps of both poles are supposed to be gone by now!


KV>You should allow for a ripple on the trend.


What `ripple on the trend' were those pseudo-scientists allowing for when
they went to Antarctica to prove that most of Antarctica's ice had melted,
only to get stuck for several weeks in the ICE? The ice was so thick even
`ice-breakers' couldn't free them!


KV>Changes you want to see can only be caused by changes of many degrees.


But...but but...according to Al Gore, it was supposed to be completely gone
during summer. That was back several years.


Since then Gore has been proven `all wet'. It has in fact increased!


According to Al Gore...there was supposed to be a 20 foot rise in sea levels.


In fact...that hasn't happened either.


KV>Yearly changes in reality are fractions of degrees. You are inpatient to
KV>see see results.


According to some scientists...the seas may rise .59 to 2 feet over the next
century. The operative words there is *may*! As in *might*!


In other words there's no guarantee it will.


But to listen to Al Gore you'd think it waas gonna happen either this year or
next, at the latest.


Here's a major clue:


When scientists come up with something new, and they're talking about it,
typically after they've done imparting whatever...they will answer any
questions that come up on it.


When Gore was regularly giving his red-faced pronouncements on `global
warming' and all the terrible things that would happen if we didn't `go
green' (which, by the way, he was not only heavily invested in, he was
also one of the very first top people to sell off at the high price and
scram before the bottom fell out, in at least two provable instances),
at the end of his little `dooms-day' presentation when the hard questions
strarted being asked....he'd stalk off the stage and disappear!


There's a reason Gore refused to appear in a situation where there was
going to be some hard questions asked him.


Because its a scam. A con job. Even a casual reading of some of the e-mails
from the East Anglia University climate research unit shows its a farce!


And the biggest victims of it all are the taxpayers. And we should be mad
as hell about it. Wwhen some asshole like Hussein Obama gets in front of
a news camera and starts telling us `the science is settled...the debate is
over...' , THATS when the questions should be flying at them hard and fast!


We should be demanding they be answered, and not just laying back and watching
our money go into outfits that are already on the verge of filing chapter 11
or 13 (Solyndra was only the most widely known. there were a few more that did
the same thing. And in each instance it was taxpayer money that went down the
drain!).



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