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from: Adam Flinton
date: 2005-07-20 22:53:16
subject: Re: Iraqi civie death tol 25K

From: Adam Flinton 

Geo wrote:
> So a grand total of under 10K for the US compared to the 100K number Phil
> was posting about a month ago? And 80% of that 10K are men, so how can these
> outfits tell if the men were civilians or not since they don't wear
> uniforms? Are "criminals" considered civilians?
>

Are women & children civilians?

Adam

> Geo.
>
> "Adam"  wrote in message
> news:42de5ecb$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>
>>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-1700874,00.html
>>
>>"Yesterday in London figures were published estimating that more than
>>25,000 civilians have been killed and 42,000 wounded in Iraq since the
>>US-led invasion in March 2003. A report by Iraq Body Count, an activist
>>group, and Oxford Research Group, claimed the death toll for the 12
>>months to the end of March was 11,351, almost double the toll for the
>>previous year.
>>
>>About 20 per cent of the victims were women and children, according to
>>the report, which is based on media reports, mortuary and medical
>>witness statements, and official Iraqi ministry statements. American-led
>>forces were blamed for 37 per cent of the deaths, “criminals” for 36 per
>>cent and anti-occupation forces for 9 per cent. The balance could not be
>>attributed to any single group.
>>
>>Most of the killings slip by virtually unnoticed, almost routine in a
>>country where death is so commonplace. Of the 23 people killed yesterday
>>in scattered shootings, 13 died in an attack on a bus carrying Iraqi
>>workers to an American army base northeast of the city. Most of the dead
>>are brought to one of Baghdad’s main hospitals for a post-mortem
>>examination, then taken by families for burial, mainly in the giant Shi
>>a cemetery in Najaf to the south.
>>
>>At the central mortuary, camphor is thrown into coffins to disguise the
>>stench of death. But at Yarmouk hospital, where the aged refrigerators
>>frequently break down, the marsh-gas reek makes even veteran mortuary
>>workers hold their noses as they hose down the yard after bodies are
>>collected by relatives. "
>>
>>
>>That's till march & we're into July....
>>
>>Adam
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