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From: Paul 
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Subject: Re: Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 21:36:20 -0500
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james@nospam.com wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:30:14 -0600, ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) wrote:
> 
>> Better than me. Mine were awful at home and college 30 minuts away. 
>> Connections were mostly at 26400. Lucky at 31200. It didn't matter where 
>> and how good my modems were. Average was about 3kBs for compressed datas 
>> in downloads. 
>>
>> Also, I couldn't get DSL. I could get IDSL, but that was like 144 Kbs 
>> that costed over $100 IIRC back in the 2000s. And then Excite@Home with 
>> Adelphia came among. It sucked too until it became DOCSIS complaint and 
>> had a complete digital makeover. :/
>> -- 
> 
> My downloads are never over 3kbs. Usually closer to 2kbs. I downloaded a
> 1.5MB file yesterday and it took close to 1/2 hour.
> 
> I cant even get DSL. There is no cable either. All I can get is a
> satellite dish, and that would cost over $100 per month. They wont just
> install it for internet, you have to get the whole package with TV. I
> watch very little tv, so I dont need that. 
> 

As a connoisseur of dialup, I'm sure you know this
already. Initially, there were two competing standards.
The standards body tried to combine them, making V90. The
idea was, you could get a firmware upgrade, to bring your
model to V90.

      X2  ___
             \___ V90
      K56 ___/

Well, what happened ? Instead of unification, the modem
and front end still had to match for best results. This is
why I had two modems, a Supra for K56 and a USR for X2. Then,
it depended on whether I was dialing into work, or dialing
into Freenet, as to which modem worked best. If I used the
wrong modem, the result could be the "spiral of death".

      V90 with an X2 ___

      V90 with a K56 ___

The spiral of death, is a kind of negotiation failure. The
initial connection might be at 46K (i.e. a bit too high),
Over a period of minutes, transmission errors would pile up,
and the protocol would seek to adjust the properties to
compensate. The effective transmission rate was no longer
46K. It might take around 10 to 15 minutes, but the rate
would drop and drop, until there wasn't enough bandwidth to
do keep-alive on PPP. And the modem pool would hang up.
The protocol did not appear to have any ability to
"open the line up again", if line quality improved. It
would just go down and down, until the line dropped.

Now, the standard the Supra uses, at some point I no longer
had any of those to dial into. So the Supra collected dust.
I lost my last dialup a couple years ago (Freenet wants at
least $25 a year to keep an account on dialup), and I finally
put the USR away as well. I used to use FreeNet, to check the
ADSL status page at my ISP, when my ADSL wasn't working. It
was better to do that, than to phone the support number and
listen to Abba for 40 minutes until someone would pick up and
tell me how broken things were.

You *can* improve your lot in life to 5KB/sec. But
the last few times I used dialup, it was a living hell.
As even the most innocent web page, is megabytes of crap.
Everything ends up taking an hour to do. Tuning up the
dialup modem, won't make it heroic.

*******

This is one way for rural people to get Internet.
Smaller ISPs may offer this. For a company to offer
this, the payback is probably 20 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Canopy

    "Under ideal operating conditions, the system can
     communicate over distances of 3.5 to 15 miles

     Maximum range    120 miles
     Type of signal:  line-of-sight
    "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Internet_service_provider

   Paul
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