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to: Robert G Lewis
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2005-07-22 10:28:40
subject: Re: Bombs in London

From: Adam Flinton 

Robert G Lewis wrote:
> I'd say the special ops are the way to go. Our Military is not designed to
> fight an insurgency. Limited, Targeted strikes. Not large numbers of troops
> against an unseen enemy. However that has to be part of an overall strategy
> to return a society to being a civil society.
>
> I like the way this guy thinks
>
> http://defense.iwpnewsstand.com/newsstand_special.asp
>
ROFLAMO.....I do like the way this guy puts things...

"This is no more a war on terrorism than World War II was a war on
submarines."

"What we're fighting is an insurgency defined as a popular movement
that seeks to change the status quo through violence, subversion,
propaganda, terrorism or other military action. "

I will have to publish the photos I took t'other day of the inrgent
stronghold of Valley Forge.

""The center of gravity, the decisive terrain in this war is the
vast majority of people who are not directly involved but whose support,
willing or coerced, is necessary to insurgent operations around the
world," he said. "Hearts and minds are more important than
capturing and killing people.""

Yup.

But hey what would he know, he's only a marine general.

""I would certainly concur," Gregson replied. "The
global networked enemy that we're fighting is doing, very, very, very well
in the information ops area and portraying our actions as anti-Islamic,
anti-Islam, anti-Muslim. "

Yup It's why weddings matter, bombing compounds where you know the whole
extended family live matter why GT matters etc.etc.

""We don't have enough ammunition to kill all the terrorists that
the enemy can run at us," Gregson said. "We have to start working
on the population from which the terrorist foot soldiers are
recruited.""

Yup.

""We don't know the difference between power on the one hand and
authority and legitimacy on the other," Vlahos said. "Authority
always trumps power. It's a strange thing to see in history, but it's true.
And we have to understand that if we lose authority, that's as bad as
losing thousands of men."
  Vlahos continued, "We're in the process now of having an erosion of
authority which I think is much more significant in many ways than actual
military performance. And our approach is so fixated on material
instrumentality as the basis for power, not understanding that power itself
is subordinate to authority. And as a result I think we miss much of what's
going on."
  Vlahos also criticized the way U.S. officials characterize enemy
fighters. "Look at this term of irregular warfare," he said.
"All the ways we define the way the enemy fights . . . it's always a
'not' word. It's irregular, it's asymmetrical, it's unconventional -- like
they're not doing it right!" The conference attendees, many of whom
were active or retired military members or students at the college, filled
the auditorium with laughter, signaling they understood the point."


Interesting case of "4 legs good 2 legs better" from the
descendants of Washington, Paul Revere et al.

Somehow I can just see Cornwallis complaining how the Colonial insurgents
were not fighting right....

Adam

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