From: "Tony Ingenoso" 

If the Palm Beach dem organization is so strong (which it actually is, PB
is overwhelmingly dem) explain why democrat turnout in Palm Beach county
was down ~20% over 2000 in spite of this unprecedented push.

You can't accept that what really happened is that dem issues have finally
gone so far that a large number of people finally hit a "hard
stop" on them.

Even Bill Clinton recongnized this and pleaded with Kerry to throw the gays
overboard since they were costing him more than they were bringing to the
table.  Hillary recognizes this now with the "totally unrestricted
abortion" position and has backed off in a hasty play to remake
herself towards the middle.

When will you recognize this?  Its not about "organization" - its
about dems moving so far to the left that they're pushing away a lot of
their traditional base....they pushed me away 20 years ago when this lurch
to the left started.  I'd been a dem until then.



"Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
news:42e1b2ec$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> And I normally got 2-4 calls from the Republicans asking for donations
while
> I lived in PA, as a registered democrat. No calls from the Democrats. Just
a
> data point. You apparently live in an area with a strong democrat
> organization. I lived in a county with a strong Republican machine.
>
> Without organization there are no talking heads, no unified messages, no
> party machinery, no advertisements etc etc etc. So yes it was due to the
> better organization by the Republicans.
>
> "Tony Ingenoso"  wrote in message
> news:42e1a6b2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > What prompts voters to turn off the Simpsons and go vote?
> >
> > I had 5 different defacto democrat reps (one official PB democrat party
> > rep,
> > 4 from some Emily's list organization trying to deceive people into
> > believing they were the league of woman voters) physically knock on the
> > door
> > at my house in Palm Beach county last year.
> >
> > This was a totally unprecedented democrat push compared to past
elections.
> >
> > ZERO republicans knocked on the door.
> >
> > "organization" doesn't motivate people to get off their
asses and go
vote.
> >
> > You know what does?  Pissing them off.

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