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>Too bad you don't do ship an crew profiles.  Thiose might be pretty cool!

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this.  For the "Athena"
stories, ther= e are brief
crew profiles, but I hesitate to post the more complete profiles I have
bec= ause they
contain spoiler information, and also some parts I'm more tentative about a= nd might
change.  They also contain seeds for story ideas.  In fact, a good chunk of=
 Bayan-
hong's profile is likely to become the second "Athena" novel.  As
for the s= hip
profile, I think there's enough information on the Athena itself, and as
fo= r the history
of the ship, well, that's in the stories.

Crew profiles for the older stories and ships is different.  The Europa and=
 its crew
appear only in "Madwoman," and other than what's in the story, I
don't reca= ll anything
else I thought about them.  All I know is that the Europa is just like the
= original-series
Enterprise.  Back then, the only source of ship information besides my imag= ination
was the Franz Joseph guide.  I latched on the dreadnaughts, as I explained = below.

I pulled out the original dultang.  I do recall the first story well enough=
 (I was fuzzy on
some of the details, however) since it was the first one, but the others
we= re almost
forgotten.

There is actually a Steve Trek #0, a story that was written before
"Madwoma= n," but it's
not Trek.  This story, "The Trollen Experience," actually refers
to a bunch=
 of 1977 teen-
agers who build their own starship (!) just like the Enterprise (!!!) and
h= ead out into
space and get into trouble.  As far as I can remember, the idea was to have=
 these kids
end up on some planet, mulitply and produce a civilization that would be
qu= ite impressive
by the time of the twenty-third century.  It's not Trek despite the
termino= logy, and
naturally, it's not part of the continuity.

The second story is "The Flagship."  It introduces the starship
"Endeavor" = and its crew.
The ship is patrolling the Romulan Neutral Zone looking for cloaked Romulan=
 ships,
with its sensors upgraded from information gleaned from that cloaking
devic= e stolen by
Kirk in "The Enterprise Incident."  They do run into Romulans, in
their upg= raded but
still Romulan-looking ship, and a skirmish ensues.  The story reads a lot
l= ike "The
Enterprise Incident" but without the Romulan commander (male) and the
scien= ce officer
(female) flirting.

Story #3 is "The Triangle."  This one was directly inspired by
the animated=
-series episode
"Delta Triangle" (I believe that's the name of the episode), and
the Endeav= or ends up there.
This episode is important in the continuity because it introduces the
Odona= ns.  The two
ships help each other escape that zone in space.  The implication here is
t= hat this is
the first contact between these two species, but I know that is not true.

Story #4 is "Chinki."  The ship here is the U.S.S. Hermes,
Scout-class, NCC=
-585 (straight
from the Josephs book).  This is a special-mission ship sent to the planet
= Caecia IV,
where Starfleet has learned Orion slave traders have a base, and have some = captured
Federation citizens (including a Kentyan, although I called him an
"Alpha C= enturian").
The ship leads a mission to recover, through negotiation or intervention if=
 necessary, the
captives.  The Hermes runs into an Odonan ship, called the Odona, commanded=
 by the
well-known Hualei Chiang (she appears in the next "Athena" story
I will pos= t, "Traitor's
Son (Part One)," but has appeared in stories through the entire span).  The=
 two ships
combine and rescue the individuals.  "Chinki" refers to the name
of the Odo= nan, a key
person, who is recovered.  This story is notable because it contains the
on= ly sustained
scene of fisticuffs in all of Steve-Trek.

Story #5 is "Time Trap."  For this story, and the next few, I
step solidly = into fanboy mode.
Afterall, I was only fourteen years old at the time, and we all know what
k= ind of Trek
we've been accusing fourteen year old boys of liking and writing.  The ship=
 is the Star
Empire (dreadnaught class, straight from that tech manual I keep referring
= to), but I did
not like three nacelles.  My Star Empire was slightly different.  It had
fo= ur nacelles, including
a pair where that third one is in those diagrams.  I actually forgot the
na= me of the captain
of that ship, Steve Thorpe!  No relation to me, or the future Cpt. Leonard
= Thorpe.  In this
story, the Star Empire is sent out to determine what happened to the Cygnus=
, a science
ship doing a routine archaeological investigation at Jangon.  The ship was
= not there.
Instead, some kind of temporal effect (a swirly thing, in Jay's terminology=
) sent the ship
back in time five hundred years.  The ship ends up in a more primitive
peri= od in the culture
of the planet, and Thorpe and crew try their best to avoid violating the
Pr= ime Directive too
much in their attempt to get back to their own period (forgot about the
sli= ngshot around the
sun, apparently).  Unfortunately, their presence sparks a war as one side
a= ccuses the
other of having secret technology, which proves to be true.  The one side
b= eing attacked
in fact did have some technology that Thorpe helps himself to.  Using that,=
 his science
officer and engineer (the latter a Vulcan) modify the Star Empire's warp
dr= ive to drive the
ship to the future.  I'd imagine the time travelling was done using much
th= e same approach
as the Enterprise-E used in "First Contact."  Because Thorpe
believes he vi= olated the Prime
Directive at Jangon, he hides the time-travelling technology and swears his=
 crew to
secrecy.

Story #6 is "Return to the Land of Yesterday."  This is a sequel
to the pre= vious story.
The problem with the Cygnus was not answered in the previous story, so
Thor= pe now used
the technology he had to make a more controlled trip into the past, to find=
 the Cygnus and
stop these inadvertant time transports.  I had not read this story in
easil= y fifteen, and perhaps
twenty years, and when I read parts of it now, I'm surprised how much of
"C= ausality
Failure" came from this.  The planet had entered some kind of temporal loop=
 where the
planet travelled through the same time period over and over again until its=
 society went
extinct.  The Cygnus ended up in that loop, and when Thorpe found them, the=
 few survivors
were old people.  They had found the means to disrupt the time loop, but
la= cked the power
to do it.  The Star Empire had that in abundance, but Thorpe also realized
= that the stolen
technology relied on this central location.  The surviving Cygnus officers
= volunteered to
stay behind and use materials provided by Thorpe's ship to destroy the
mach= inery and end
the loop, but after the Star Empire had returned. When the ship reappeared
= in the proper
timeline, the technology on board became inert, and Jangon was revealed to
= be a planet
that was not at all advanced, more like Earth was 30,000 years ago.

The last "story" is really a series of crew profiles for the
"Star Empire" = crew.  They appeared
again in a couple of short stories written probably in the fall of 1977. 
T= he stories mentioned
here were all writen in May and June 1977.  The last story for this crew
wa= s one whose
title I forget (I can't find it, but it was written in a school notebook I
= had hanging around from
grade eight, and I'm hoping I didn't throw it out), and it was another
visi= t to Jangon's past,
as it is revealed that the culture on the planet was not
"natural."  After = this point, I gave the
name "Star Empire" to the Odonans, and followed that with a
series of stori= es featuring
Cmdr. Chiang, now commanding the "Star Empire," and later, her
most famous = command,
the "Star Empire II."


I hope I'm not boring you with all of this.

Steve
The Universe Unbounded.

Visit "Star Trek: Athena" at http://ussathena.iwarp.com


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>Too bad you don't do ship an crew profiles. 
Thiose might be
pretty cool!
 
I'm not exactly sure what you mean
by this. 
For the "Athena" stories, there are brief
crew profiles, but I hesitate to
post the more
complete profiles I have because they
contain spoiler information, and
also some parts
I'm more tentative about and might
change.  They also
contain seeds for story
ideas.  In fact, a good chunk of Bayan-
hong's profile is likely to become
the second
"Athena" novel.  As for the ship
profile, I think there's
enough information
on
the Athena itself, and as for the history
of the ship, well, that's in the
stories.
 
Crew profiles for the older
stories and ships is
different.  The Europa and its crew
appear only in
"Madwoman," and other than what's
in
the story, I don't recall anything
else I thought about
them.  All I know is
that
the Europa is just like the original-series
Enterprise.  Back then,
the only source of
ship information besides my imagination
was the Franz Joseph
guide.  I latched on the
dreadnaughts, as I explained below.
 
I pulled out the original
dultang.  I do
recall the first story well enough (I was fuzzy on
some of the details, however)
since it was the
first one, but the others were almost
forgotten.
 
There is actually a Steve Trek #0,
a story that
was
written before "Madwoman," but it's
not Trek.  This story,
"The Trollen
Experience," actually refers to a bunch of 1977 teen-
agers who build their own starship
(!) just like
the Enterprise (!!!) and head out into
space and get into
trouble.  As far as I
can remember, the idea was to have these kids
end up on some planet, mulitply
and produce a
civilization that would be quite impressive
by the time of the twenty-third
century. 
It's
not Trek despite the terminology, and
naturally, it's not part of the
continuity.
 
The second story is "The
Flagship."  It
introduces the starship "Endeavor" and its crew.
The ship is patrolling the Romulan
Neutral Zone
looking for cloaked Romulan ships,
with its sensors upgraded from
information gleaned
from that cloaking device stolen by
Kirk in "The Enterprise
Incident."  They do
run into Romulans, in their upgraded but
still Romulan-looking ship, and a skirmish
ensues.  The story reads a lot like "The
Enterprise Incident" but
without the Romulan
commander (male) and the science officer
(female) flirting.
 
Story #3 is "The
Triangle."  This one was
directly inspired by the animated-series episode
"Delta Triangle" (I
believe that's the name of the
episode), and the Endeavor ends up there.
This episode is important in the continuity
because
it introduces the Odonans.  The two
ships help each other escape that zone in
space.  The implication here is that this is
the first contact between these
two species, but I
know that is not true.
 
Story #4 is
"Chinki."  The ship here is the
U.S.S. Hermes, Scout-class, NCC-585 (straight
from the Josephs book).  This is a
special-mission ship sent to the planet Caecia IV,
where Starfleet has learned Orion
slave traders
have a base, and have some captured
Federation citizens (including a
Kentyan, although
I called him an "Alpha Centurian").
The ship leads a mission to recover, through
negotiation or intervention if necessary, the
captives.  The Hermes
runs into an Odonan
ship, called the Odona, commanded by the
well-known Hualei Chiang (she
appears in the next
"Athena" story I will post, "Traitor's
Son (Part One)," but has
appeared in stories
through the entire span).  The two ships
combine and rescue the
individuals.  "Chinki"
refers to the name of the Odonan, a key
person, who is
recovered.  This story is
notable because it contains the only sustained
scene of fisticuffs in all of
Steve-Trek.
 
Story #5 is "Time
Trap."  For this story, and
the next few, I step solidly into fanboy mode.
Afterall, I was only fourteen
years old at the
time, and we all know what kind of Trek
we've been accusing fourteen year
old boys of
liking and writing.  The ship is the Star
Empire (dreadnaught class,
straight from that tech
manual I keep referring to), but I did
not like three nacelles. 
My Star Empire was
slightly different.  It had four nacelles,
including
a pair where that third one is in those
diagrams.  I actually forgot the name of the
captain
of that ship, Steve
Thorpe!  No relation to
me, or the future Cpt. Leonard Thorpe.  In this
story, the Star Empire is sent out
to determine
what happened to the Cygnus, a science
ship doing a routine
archaeological investigation
at Jangon.  The ship was not there.
Instead, some kind of temporal
effect (a swirly
thing, in Jay's terminology) sent the ship
back in time five hundred
years.  The ship
ends up in a more primitive period in the culture
of the planet, and Thorpe and crew
try their best
to avoid violating the Prime Directive too
much in their attempt to get back
to their own
period (forgot about the slingshot around the
sun, apparently). 
Unfortunately, their
presence sparks a war as one side accuses the
other of having secret technology,
which proves to
be true.  The one side being attacked
in fact did have some technology
that Thorpe helps
himself to.  Using that, his science
officer and engineer (the latter a
Vulcan) modify
the Star Empire's warp drive to drive the
ship to the future.  I'd
imagine the time
travelling was done using much the same approach
as the Enterprise-E used in
"First Contact." 
Because Thorpe believes he violated the Prime
Directive at Jangon, he hides the
time-travelling
technology and swears his crew to
secrecy.
 
Story #6 is "Return to the Land of
Yesterday."  This is a sequel to the previous
story.
The problem with the Cygnus was
not answered in
the
previous story, so Thorpe now used
the technology he had to make a
more controlled
trip into the past, to find the Cygnus and
stop these inadvertant time
transports.  I
had
not read this story in easily fifteen, and perhaps
twenty years, and when I read
parts of it now, I'm
surprised how much of "Causality
Failure" came from
this.  The planet had
entered some kind of temporal loop where the
planet travelled through the same
time period over
and over again until its society went
extinct.  The Cygnus
ended up in that loop,
and when Thorpe found them, the few survivors
were old people.  They
had found the means to
disrupt the time loop, but lacked the power
to do it.  The Star
Empire had that in
abundance, but Thorpe also realized that the stolen
technology relied on this central
location. 
The surviving Cygnus officers volunteered to
stay behind and use materials
provided by Thorpe's
ship to destroy the machinery and end
the loop, but after the Star
Empire had returned.
When the ship reappeared in the proper
timeline, the technology on board
became inert,
and
Jangon was revealed to be a planet
that was not at all advanced, more
like Earth was
30,000 years ago.
 
The last "story" is
really a series of crew
profiles for the "Star Empire" crew.  They
appeared
again in a couple of short stories written
probably
in the fall of 1977.  The stories mentioned
here were all writen in May and
June 1977. 
The last story for this crew was one whose
title I forget (I can't find it, but it was
written
in a school notebook I had hanging around from
grade eight, and I'm hoping I
didn't throw it
out),
and it was another visit to Jangon's past,
as it is revealed that the culture
on the planet
was not "natural."  After this point, I gave
the
name "Star Empire" to
the Odonans, and followed
that with a series of stories featuring
Cmdr. Chiang, now commanding the
"Star Empire,"
and
later, her most famous command,
the "Star Empire
II."

I hope I'm not boring you with all of
this.
 
Steve
The Universe
Unbounded.
 
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