USA (no{at}thanks.com) writes:
> On 13 Mar 2005 12:35:05 -0800, "speed loader"

> wrote:
>
>>Grizzlie Antagonist wrote:
>>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:40:55 -0600, USA  wrote:
>>>
>>> >What is more disgusting than having women serving on police forces
>>is
>>> >the fact that no one in the media will admit the obvious -- that
>>this
>>> >female (like all females) was unable to control her gun or to
>>control
>>> >the prisoner and as a result other people she was supposedly
>>> >"protecting" were killed.
>>>
>>> I had a feeling all along that it was a female deputy - by the
>>> sparseness of details that the news media was providing.  I said that
>>> to someone else today.
>>>
>>> If the authorities are going to hire women for law enforcement, why
>>> do they have to hire them from a real life applicant pool?
>>>
>>> Why don't they hire those ass-kicking chicks that they're always
>>> showing on TV and in the movies?
>>
>>Griz,
>>
>>I'm very surprised you and the hardcore vets of this group completely
>>missed the flip side of this issue - the prisoner in question.
>>
>>His first trial ended in a hung jury.  Clearly, there were jurors who
>>were not convinced of his guilt - it wasn't a slam-dunk case.
>>
>>The prosecution was getting ready to RR him the next time around.  He
>>knew he would be convicted, and locked away for good, and made the only
>>decision a man in his position would.
>>
>>Although I understand the necessity for men to be in charge of the
>>muscle, you and the others are only making the case for even more
>>repressive police measures against the accused without considering that
>>this guy very likely was driven to commit violence against his
>>girlfriend, who may or may not share blame for the crime against her.
>
> The first trial was hung.  Apparently one or more jurors had trouble
> believing the girlfriend or the DA or both.  This was a rape charge
> and rape is often falsely claimed.  I find myself unwilling to
> automatically believe there ever was a rape because one jury
> supposedly possessing all the details of the alleged crime could not
> find him guilty.

I'm coming to these details a bit late, but IIRC, wasn't the jury
hung in the first trial, eight for acquital, and four for conviction ?

> I know a little background on the girlfriend who pressed the rape
> charges.  There are reports the two were involved for 8 years when she
> decided she wanted out.  Nichols began dating another woman who oopsie
> got pregnant.  This is the child he is allegedly behind in child
> support for but then if you listen to the press every man alive is
> behind in child support so I don't know that accusation has been
> absolutely verified.

A good rule of thumb to any breaking media coverage of stories, is
that at least 50% of the data will be very wrong, once fact
checking catches up to the newsflow.

> Anyway Girlfriend 1 and he reconciled but Girlfriend 1 had problems
> with him having to send his earnings off to another woman who had his
> child so Girlfriend 1 broke off with him again.  Supposedly that is
> when he allegedly raped her.  Allegedly he brought a cooler full of
> cold cuts to her apartment, tied her up and sodomized and raped over
> several days one of which was her birthday.  He supposedly brought the
> cooler with him so he'd have his own food supply over those days.
> This alone sounds hinky to me.

Thank you, Tommy Lee Jones, Marshall. 

> I also suspect there was a railroad job being done on him.  I'm not a
> lawyer and have no experience in criminal courts at all but it seems
> odd to me that he had a hung jury one week and the following Monday
> morning he was retried.  I thought lawyers needed time to go over the
> record of the first trial before a retrial.  What was the extreme rush
> to retry this man?  It just doesn't sound right to me.

Indeed.

>>I do not condone or recommend what he did to the GF, but to ignore his
>>side and focus only on how to better shackle prisoners ignores the
>>glaring issue of (false) rape accusations and the excessive punishment
>>that falls exclusively on men's heads because of it.
>
> What he *might* have done to the GF.  To date their is no conviction
> of rape and one hung jury that could not find him guilty of rape.
>
> I doubt the alleged rape went down the exactly the way the GF claimed.

Given the wide data pool for the frequency of false and magnified
such claims, this is a reasonable conclusion.

> This woman had an obvious axe to grind with him and her story (what I
> know of it) sounds off.  I believe Nichols realized with the 2nd trial
> in as many weeks that he was being railroaded into a life sentence in
> prison.

Very likely.

Andre

--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.


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