Well Barry I'll now need to get on the net and find where on Birchall.nwnet 
but I'll go into the ftp site on this board and try first. Have you tried to 
use MIME64 ot translate bin files into text?  That's the way they do it on 
the "America On Line" (network?). That outfit has sent me so many 3 1/2" 
floppies that I havent needed to buy any for use.
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