On 13 Mar 2005 14:48:01 -0800, "Hyerdahl"  wrote:

>
>Mark Sobolewski wrote:
>> In article ,
>>  Grizzlie Antagonist  wrote:
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>> Can you imagine if the woman had added "with sugar on top"
>> the demand that no only should he pay all the bills
>> and maybe take out the trash and mow the lawn, but also
>> pay her for her time to look after HER children? :-)
>
>Where have all the cowboys gone?  :-)


Where have all the cowboys gone?

Women killed them off, Puke.  And then looked around at the barren
surface of the range and asked "Where have all the cowboys gone?"



>Here's the thing, Mark....you don't have to marry a SAH spouse, but if
>you do, and the marriage doesn't work out, 


You really are a sick woman, Puke.  Why should anyone assume that the
marriage won't work out?

You are OBSESSED with Mark's marriage.  You spent months denying that
it had taken place.  Then you spent more months deriding his wife as
some sort of legally kept woman.  And now you have them getting
divorced.

You keep talking about how happy and wonderful your own manless
dickless pizza-overloaded liberated life is, but if you weren't so
secretly miserable, you wouldn't be begrudging Mark marital bliss.



>you will have to pay for her
>sacrifice of career. 

> Yes, we know you don't think your Irina is worth
>that much, and that what she does has little value, but so what?
>Judges will insist that you pay her for her sacrifice, and that is good
>enough for me.



Well, you see, Puke, you are again showing that just a little bit of
legal knowledge is a dangerous thing.

You're thinking of California and community property law. but
California is one of only nine jurisdictions that follows such law. 

It's clear that Mark is not getting divorced, except in your demented
imagination, but all other jurisdictions are "common law"
jurisdictions, and this includes the District of Columbia

A common law jurisdiction is more likely to divide property based on
what the married couple had in mind during the marriage or based on
the legal title to the property than it is to mandate a Procrustean
50/50 split of the marital estate that a community property
jurisdiction.

Or they'll divide up the martial estate based on what they think is
"fair" without ASSUMING IN ADVANCE sacrifice on the part of the
non-working spouse, as community property states automatically assume.

Even in a community property state, a man can protect himself from
that 50/50 split by getting a prenup in advance.  Barry Bonds saved
himself millions of dollars that he would have had to part with from
the dissolution of his first marriage by getting a prenup in which his
first wife renounced her community property rights, and this prenup
was upheld by the California Supreme Court in Bonds vs. Bonds.

It made good law for other men too, and more and more men are taking
the precaution of arranging their financial affairs so before tying
the knot - regardless of whether YOU like it or not.


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disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites; in proportion as
their love of justice is above their rapacity; in proportion as their
soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and
presumption; in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the
counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. 
Society cannot exist unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be
placed somewhere, and the less of it there is within, the more there must
be without.  It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things that men
of intemperate minds cannot be free.  Their passions forge their
fetters."
     
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