From: "Gary Britt" 


"John Beckett"  wrote
in message news:5t06g11nrrsabm04n957o7p7sbkbjbuujq{at}4ax.com...
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news::
> > No, I'm saying they didn't need *faith* that Christ was resurrected.
They
> > saw it with their own eyes or they saw it didn't happen with their own
eyes.
> > Faith wasn't required for them on this one particular point.
>
> I can't stand it any longer -- I'm going to have to break my vow of
> silence.
>
> If Christ was resurrected, we can assume the apostles were all good,
> sensible people, and their testimony is evidence. But you need to KNOW
> that Christ was resurrected before you have any reason to pay particular
> attention to statements from the apostles.

Well if it was a fake Magic trick, down to putting ones hand into the
wounds on his side, then it certainly was a convincing magic trick.  They
all were so convinced that they would rather die than say it wasn't true. 
I'd have to say magic tricks don't make one that convinced.

>
> Finally, why are you so excited about finding a "proof"? Is there
> something unsatisfying in your faith that requires you to elevate your
> beliefs to a science?
>

I'm not excited at all about proving anything.  I've merely been responding
to Adams never ending questions and nonsense.  In my first post I responded
to something Adam said by saying there were strong proofs of Jesus
divinity/resurrection.  Then he just kept asking a bunch of dumb questions
after that.  I'm not trying to prove anything, just trying to be polite and
answer his questions.

Gary

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