RS>KP> I might note that for some reason, some off-road bikes are now coming
RS>KP> out without the top tube being horizontal.  I'm not sure why.
 
RS>I can give you a very valid reason why. Have you ever slipped off of the
RS>pedals on a boys bike and came down on the Bar? Pretty good reason if you
RS>ask me.
 
(In high voice) I can vouch for that! 
 
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