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to: John Beckett
from: Adam
date: 2005-08-17 11:58:22
subject: Re: Harvard Study To Disprove Intelligent Design

From: Adam 

John Beckett wrote:

> "Geo"  wrote in message
news::
>
>>I don't think they can prove this. Evolution has a goal. Or more precisely,
>>a direction from simpler to more complex, from weaker to stronger to
>>intelligent.
>
>
> I'm not going to repeat all the arguments from when this was last
> discussed, but for posterity let me record that Evolution HAS NO GOAL.
>
> It's extremely understandable for us to observe life and conclude that
> something like humans is a goal or whatever. And humans ARE much more
> clever and desirable (to us) than mosquitoes etc.
>
> However, the vast majority of evolution has worked with bacteria and the
> like. If being a good musician or a good typist is an indication of a
> winner, then WE WIN. However, humans have evolved only as the extreme
> outer edge of what is possible, given the circumstances. If events had not
> removed the dinosaurs, humans would not exist.
>
> John
>

Possibly no goal. However if you consider the layers of chaos &
organization which permeate from the infintesimally small to the
infintesimally large then it strikes on that nature & it's corollary
evolution is an organizing force just like gravity or inter-atomic forces
etc.

i.e. from "get enough energy together in one point & it wll
organize itself into particles of matter" through to "vast spiral
arms of galaxies" there are layers of Chaos/organizing
force/chaos/organizing force etc.

e.g. 2 objects of mass placed a dstance apart have no goal of merging their
masses but given the organizing force of gravity that is what will happen
unless chaos intevenes (e.g. a another rock comes along moving at speed
& hits one of them).

  Adam

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