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echo: pol_inc
to: BOB KLAHN
from: JOHN FITZGERALD
date: 2009-04-08 07:24:14
subject: ACORN CORRUPTION

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JF>   Show me where I say anything that comes close to that.

BK>   You keep harping on the fact that they turn in bogus
BK>   registration forms, or duplicates, but you are the one
BK>   ignoring the fact that the law *REQUIRES* them to turn
BK>   in those forms.

JF>   In your opinion.  It is a given that they turn in their
JF>   reg'froms, as is required by law.  Why would they go
JF>   through the trouble of falsifying forms if they were not
JF>   going to turn them in?

BK>   Why would they bother to falsify registration
BK>   forms if they know they will be rejected?

   Obviously they didn't know in many cases and figured many forms would
make it through and some would not.  What ever your speculation about
their complicity may be, it doesn't change the fact that many falsified
forms, beyond all other proportions, have been submitted, 'by law',
oh yes, by ACORN.  Anyone can do something 'by law' to commit a greater
fraud.




BK>   Remember, Acorn gets nothing out of it
BK>   unless the registration is valid.

  ACORN is a (very) well funded, leftist jaunt who can no longer hide
behind the facade of 'helping the poor to vote'.   Their pattern of
behavior has gone on for too long for any sober person not to notice.
A pattern of behavior ACORN has not bothered to change.  Year after
year, they get caught.  The ACORN administration has done nothing
outside of the realm of reprimanding and apologizing for it's offenders,
for PR purposes typically, and use the same sort of fuzzy logic to get
themselves off the hook in the publicity theater.  They are complicit.



BK>    They want voters to vote, not just registrations
BK>    on the books. And esp not rejected registrations.

   That is only true inasmuch as they want to garner Democrat votes.
And I'm sure they submit a token amount of republican votes, so forget
about going there.



BK>    Try to think of any possible motive for Acorn
BK>    to falsify registrations

  Sure, there's many thousands of voters they can use, if they cut
corners, falsify and address or signature, and at the same time have a
way to claim irresponsibility for themselves as others have attempted
to do around here.



BK>   if they know they will not result in someone voting.

  They don't know that.  They caught many forms...one can only wonder
how many slipped by.  You will assume none, if any, I will assume many.
It does not change the fact that falsified and bogus forms keep coming
from ACORN, and have been for many many years.



BK>   So, if you say they should not turn in the forms,
BK>   then you are saying they should not obey the law.

JF>   I never said they "should not turn in the forms", or
JF>   anything that comes close to it, so your whole line here
JF>   is nothing but a transparent attempt to divert attention
JF>   away from ACORN's (very) long history of corruption.

BK>   Yet you now admit they are obeying the law?

  Just the one law.  And when did I ever say they never obeyed any laws? 
Surely you know you can break some laws by employing others. So we can
get off that horse any time, Bob.  Hopefully soon.  Nothing said  here
changes the fact that bogus forms keep coming from ACORN, in proportions
matched by no other source, no matter what particular law they manage
to obey in the process.



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