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Hello Jasen - 

CA>> It wouldn't be mutually beneficial they would be
CA>> misrepresenting their agenda. 

JB> so you just straight out assumed he was lying because of
JB> his choice of words? 

I never said he was lying. I pointed out further along in (I
think?) the same reply that a publisher isn't going to want to
write contractual arrangements to publish with individuals. 

It would seem to cost more to have their lawyers draw up the
contract than the money they would earn from such an agreement
and add to their list of persons to 'police' for abuses such as
unauthorized editing etc. 

>>>>>> Find an American author. 

BS>>>>> He used to work for an American company - HP. Does that
BS>>>>> satisfy your sense of chauvinism? In this case, I look
BS>>>>> for the best regardless of national origin. 

CA>>>> There is no "sense of chauvinism" here 

JB>>> look it up. (why did you mention american?) 

CA>> #1 We _used_ to be able to say "buy American" without
CA>> having to apologize for it. 

JB> he tried they were sold out. 

No, his first comment was they refused to ship to an American
address. The "sold out" reality came much later (recently) in
the discussion. I can only base my replies on what Bob tells me
and Bob changes his 'version' to suit his purposes. 

CA>> #2 Bob apparently is in the US. He stated that the
CA>> publishers won't sell the book to him because they are in
CA>> Europe and he is not. Following this so far? Therefore if
CA>> he selected an American author (the same country Bob
CA>> resides in) that would no longer be an issue? Is this good
CA>> for you? 

JB> it scans but it based on many false assumptions. 

JB> A: the publishes won't sell to us buyers for "Turf" reasons
JB> a different publisher has the rights to sell the book in
JB> North america. there are no copies of that edition
JB> available retail. (see reesponse to point 1) 

Yes, and no one objected to discriminating against Americans
did they? 

JB> B: Selecting an American author will not necessarily change
JB> that, and won't provide the quality needed. 

You don't know that to be a fact, you are assuming facts
required to support your position that are unproven and
unsubstantiated. 

CA>>>> You said you can compress your writing to three pages by
CA>>>> making references to the book by page and chapter. How
CA>>>> useful is that to the reader if even _you_ can't buy the
CA>>>> book? 

JB>>> That would be why he wants to buy the book... 

CA>> No, actually you're wrong. Bob has said many times he
CA>> already has a copy of the book and "guards it jealously".
CA>> Bob wants to double dip and sell the flyer referencing the
CA>> book _and_ the books required to decrypt the flyers. 

JB> If he can do a better job, faster, and for a lower fee why
JB> is that bad? 

If, as Bob described his work, he was hired to document their
source code that does not mean a bibliography that makes them
dependent on Bob to decrypt the three pages. This seems rather
obvious to me I can't imagine how it is not obvious to anyone
else here. 

Possibly because this was so obvious to me, Bob has re-thought
the process and found other means to satisfy his customer and
collect his fees. This time. 

CA>>>> If it was an American (recent) author referring to the
CA>>>> book might make some sense although I personally find
CA>>>> that 'style' arrogant and too pushy about what books I
CA>>>> should own. 

JB>>> What difference does the nationality ofthe aithor make? 

CA>> You have a real problem with this don't you. 

JB> there are so many problems. 

Yes, seems so. 

Try to remember all this fuss is about how to best help Bob
earn a living and do a job he is going to be paid for. Is this
what the echo is for, to help Bob make a buck? Seems Bob has
used this echo for that purpose before and is back again for
more. 

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