From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Rich Gauszka wrote:
> "Phil Payne" 
wrote in message
> news:45f98fea{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> and being that blase gets a Brazilian shot?  Sounds good,
stiff upper lip
>>> and all, but it is more myth then fact.
>> I'm REALLY getting pissed off with the hypocrisy of this.
>>
>> It's news simply because the British police - in general - don't shoot
>> anybody, let alone innocent people.
>>
>> Of course, it's routine in the USA.  So routine, indeed, that it doesn't
>> even make the news.
>>
>> How many unarmed people have been shot dead by police in New York alone so
>> far his year?
>>
>>
>
> Talk about hypocracy - how about reporting the crimes ?
>
> http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2006/04/crime-in-uk-london-vs-new-york.html
>
> In 2002 a study found that 11 million crimes had been left out of British
> government figures, including hundreds of thousands of serious crimes
> involving woundings, robberies, assaults and even murders as well as thefts.
> Dr. David Green of the Civitas research institute said: "When you check the
> small print, it turns out the Home Office itself thinks that there were far
> more than the 13 million crimes discovered by the [official] British Crime
> Survey, perhaps four times as many." Dr Green said the Office of National
> Statistics was subject to political interference and a genuinely independent
> statistical service was needed.
>  Civitas said previously that the rise in British crime-rates was "so
> spectacular" that it was "difficult to comprehend."
Britain was "a seriously
> crime-infected and disintegrating society." Burglaries had increased from
> 72,000 in 1964 to 402,000 in 2004. Robberies of personal property had risen
> from 3,000 in 1964 to 101,000 in 2003-04. The report added: "England, from
> being a society remarkably free of crime and disorder, especially from the
> middle of the 19th to the middle of the 20th century, by the late 1990's had
> a worse record than France, Germany or the United States."
>
>

ROFL. ...ummmmm...OK....where should I start in pulling this little canard
apart....oh OK then how about ""England, from being a society
remarkably free of crime and disorder, especially from the  middle of the
19th to the middle of the 20th century"

Much worse crime detection & recording? Odd how people used to have to
carry Sword sticks etc & one simply didn't go into the east end of
London (unless one was Jack the Ripper...)

Of course the real figures are always going to be higher. They are
everywhere because frankly most crimes go unreported & that occurs
everywhere. In "the old days" it was pointless reporting most
crimes except if one wanted to claim insurance as the clear up rates (again
all round the world) were very low.

Gee so what are the real rates in the US, France etc & let's thus compare them.

So do you really believe figures in the US are "real"?

Adam

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