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to: George Sherwood
from: Adam
date: 2007-03-15 22:04:12
subject: Re: Al-Qaeda plot to bring down UK internet

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

George Sherwood wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:45:24 +0000, Adam wrote:
>
>> George Sherwood wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:29:43 -0400, John Beamish wrote:
>>>
>>>> Didn't somebody here say that al Queda wouldn't bother targeting
>>>> airplanes now ... that they would have moved on to other targets?
>>>>
>>>> Oh, wait.  That was you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Al-Qaeda is still targeting airplanes and they are still targeting
>>> people and they are also looking at many vulnerabilities such as this.
>>> There are rumors of different "Al Qaeda plots" every
day and doesn't
>>> prove the switch in tactics you are trying to imply.  I really don't
>>> see this as a good one for them since it doesn't really terrorize.
>>> Where is the terror?  They are still looking for ways to generate
>>> bodies, don't kid yourself.
>>>
>>> George
>>
>> I have a slightly harder time than you in speaking of AQ as a single
>> directed thing. Look at the 7-7 & then the chipati flour (attempted
>> bombings).
>
> Why?  I never said there weren't AQ inspired groups.  There are.  There
> are also such a entity as AQ.  This isn't mutually exclusive.
>

Indeed however AQ was always conceived of as a loose grouping. he name
gives one a clue.

>> I would say people influenced by the AQ ideology are targeting airplanes
>> etc...
>>
> Based on what?  What makes you think AQ is not doing this?  Or are you
> saying AQ as an entity doesn't exist? Some one like KSM, AQ or AQ
> inspired?
>

A) Because it's tactically much easier. Training, ideology etc fine but
transmitting "orders" (which follows from your view)....nah. Too
risky & frankly....where is the imperative? In fact where is the means
of discipline were a group nominally of AQ to "do their own
thing"?

Take "AQ in Iraq". Zarqawi etc ...heppy to take the name, kudos
etc.etc. but orders? Nah it's their war which they'll fight as they see fit
w/o any "obedience" to any "AQ council".

B) Because they're brighter than that. Organizing the events themselves
directly leads to all sort of problems e.g. with the ISI etc so ...given
their "cause" is kept burning brightly if anything by American
actions.....why not keep the powder dry & instead send out articles,
messages etc in order to "inspire others" where there is no why
of pulling the thread back to anyone within AQ itself?

Adam

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