> LK>You appear to not understand the purpose of the Keep with Next.  It is
 > when
 > LK>you want to do that?  If your object is to keep those items together, 
the
 > Ke
 > LK>with Next and/or the Keep Lines Together will adequately fill your 
needs.
 > Oh, but I *do* understand both "keep with next" and "keep
 > together". In fact, my skills are sought after, both as an
 > instructor and a document stylist.
Good, I am happy for you.  Then, you must also be sought out by Microsoft for 
your wisdon.
 > How are you going to keep the first numbered list paragraph with
 > the preceding paragraph?
Quite simple.  Change the text flow attribute of the preceding paragraph to 
Keep with Next.  See how easy that was?
 > Changing the STYLE of the preceding paragraph, whatever that
 > style is, is not an acceptable solution, because that will
 > adversely affect all other instances of that style throughout
 > the document.
I didn't change the style.  I changed one attribute.  Do you put a new style 
on one word that you want bolded within a paragraph?  Do you change the 
style? You probably just change that one attribute for that one instance that 
you need that attribute.
You have also not addressed a very real problem that I pointed out to you in 
my last post--the problem of the bottom margin.  Your Keep with Previous wish 
would pose real problems with the bottom margin and, I would propose, would 
yield the *same* result as using Keep with Next.  If the bottom of the 
preceding paragraph nudging the bottom margin, IOW, if the paragraph had one 
more line, it would flow over to the next page, and you added you Keep with 
Previous to the following bulleted item, the result would be the same as 
adding Keep with Next, because you have a bottom margin parameter that also 
must be followed.
Solution?  Quite simple.  You state that you are sought after as "an 
instructor and a document stylist," so you should have already come up with 
this.  It also sounds like you don't want to
make general changes to a particular style being used for each paragraph in 
the document. Fine, create a macro that your users can invoke that not only 
selects the bullet styles for those bulleted lists but also changes that one 
attribute, Keep with Next, on the previous paragraph.  Simple.
 > Changing the paragraph FORMAT of the preceding paragraph is not
 > acceptable, for that requires local formatting to be applied to
 > every paragraph preceding the occurence of a numbered list, and
 > we avoid local formatting as much as possible.
Why isn't it acceptable?  You tell me that you accept 100% the way that 
Microsoft WORD paginates a document?  You don't make changes?  You don't 
check the pagaination for flow?
I have almost never had a document that flows and paginates the way it 
should. Of course, I am not a document stylist.  I have just been word 
processing, professionally, for over 15 years with about 2 dozen word 
processing/editing software.  In fact one job that I was in, if a paragraph 
ended in one word
wrapping over into the next line, they would want two (that is, the "A" of 
Appendix A falling on the next line).  Another one didn't want a line split 
between "Mr." and the following name (and/or Ms. Miss. Mrs., etc.).  So, we 
had to insert a nonbreaking space there.  We have to do something to meet the 
local need rather than always focussing on the global.
 > Try my example at several places throughout a document. You'll
 > soon see what I mean. We're meeting this situation daily, and
 > again, we *are* familiar with all four text-flow options, both in
 > local paragraph formatting and in global style definition.
Then since you are familiar with the text-flow options, you know that your 
idea would yield the same results as Keep with Next.  For, if the page can 
allow it--bottom margin allows it, widow/orphan control allows it--it *will* 
be kept together.  However, and of course you already know this as you are 
sought after as an instructor and document stylist, if those other formatting 
attributes won't allow Keep with Next to work, then Keep with Previous won't 
work either.
Lawrence
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