MB>> Does Portishead, Ruby, Tricky, Bj”rk, etc. fit your definition?.. They
MB>> don't have much melody nor rhythm, they concentrate on weird sounds.
 MC> I've heard of Portishead but have not heard them.
You should.
 MC> you should mention her.  I just listened to The Sugarcubes, "Stick 
Around 
 MC> For Joy" last night for the first time in a couple of years.  I've never
 MC> listened to Bjork's solo work, however.
This is important. Her two solo albums have this taste of Trip-Hop on
about half of the songs. But Portishead and Tricky are quite pure
Trip-Hop.
MB>> Who's talking about pop?
 MC> I am.  I'm a US Top 40 hits junkie - well, except for the 90s.  
Something 
 MC> is wrong in my opinion about the pop music in this decade.  It doesn't
 MC> fit with all that has gone before, yet I don't see it as the start of
 MC> a new era or anything,
I think that a lot of styles of this decade just are part of nostalgia
and bring quite little innovation. For example, Grunge, so-called
"Alternative", New New Wave, Ska, Cocktail/Lounge all those things come
from the late 70's (Punk and New Wave) and 60's pop, as well as early
Classic Rock, regardless of what the critics say about it.
We're also assisting to the revival of Prog music. Smashing Pumpkins
seem very influenced by King Crimson lately. I like this though. :)
I like also the revival of Celtic music. And all the music that has a
Moog in it.
OTOH, in this same era, new styles are emerging. Industrial in going
mainstream, like NIN, but also through Industrial-Pop like Garbage,
David Bowie's latest album, among others, and through Trip-Hop music
which has a touch of industrial in it.
We're assisting to a kind of blend of strings and electronic noise.
Please fasten your seat belts. I wonder what it will be in 1997. Just
try to constantly avoid the crap and redundancy and you'll get pretty
interesting music. This is a list of interesting songs, which all have
clips. Some are pretty rare, but here's the list anyway:
Portishead: _Untitled_, _Numb_, _To Kill a Dead Man_, _Sour Times_
Tricky: _Black Steel_, _Overcome_
Garbage: _Queer_, _Vow_, _Stupid Girl_
David Bowie: _The Heart's Filthy Lesson_
Ruby: _Paraffin_, _Tiny Meat_
Smashing Pumpkins: _Zero_, _Tonight Tonight_
MB>> Like, "Ice Ice Baby" (1990) taken from a 1982 Queen song?
 MC> That's the one that usually comes to mind first, and yes you are 
rrect.
Well, I first heard Queen's song a few days ago. I didn't know before.
MB>> Interesting, but you should try PC's someday. ;)
 MC> I hate PCs.  I have one at work.  It's supposed to be 33x faster than 
e
PC's are slow compared to what they're supposed to do, but still it has
all the new developments in demoing, and there are tons of new programs
for PC. Lots of trackers, with which you can do lots of music. Apart
from that, I think Windows is responsible for most of the slowdown. I
run in pure DOS, and it's pretty fast. I run a 486DX33, and I can do
hundreds of things C64's can't do. Sure, C64's have lots of interesting
hardware features, but they're locked. For example, you can display 2-D
sprites, but can you scale them easily? Rotate them? Can you do 3-D
with that? Can you do fire and other feedback effects?... Full screen
in 320x200x256 at 35 frames/sec? This requires at least 10 clock ticks
on every computer. 10*320*200*35 = 15 000 000, so it requires at least
15 MHz to run at this framerate, if you suppose that it every
instruction is one tick, which surely isn't on the C64.
But still, PC's at work are always slower because they always run
Windows.
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