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echo: barktopus
to: Geo.
from: Adam
date: 2007-03-15 09:31:50
subject: Re: The Trap - a program well worth watching

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Geo. wrote:
> "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote
> in message news:45f5c8e3{at}w3.nls.net...
>
>> It was OK. What made me laugh was that they were doing exactly as they
>> accused others of i.e having an agenda & seeking evidence for it.
>
> Well naturally, it's propaganda. But I find several points they made
> quite interesting. First was Al Gore's graphs showing temperature vs CO2
> levels over the past 100K years, co2 increase definitely follows the
> temperature increase HOWEVER what they did not say was that co2 decrease
> also precedes the temperature decrease. I thought that quite interesting.
>
> Second was about the UN "scientists" being a bunch of
political bullshit
> where half the report was censured before it was released and how they
> claimed 2100 scientists but a lot of those aren't scientists and others
> were pissed that their names were put on the list since they didn't even
> come close to agreeing with the report that was published.
>

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/climate_change/article2347526.ece

Yeah but there are a lot who've said that their views were actually
misrepresented by the program & not by the UN.

> The parts about the oceans releasing CO2 and how it's such a minute part
> of the atmosphere that it can't account for the temperature change I
> already knew.
>

Marine snow is the greatest carbon sink going. Making the oceans bloom
& then denying the sea area in question to fishermen is a possible
carbon dump.



> Also the temperature decrease after WW2, that was interesting in that I
> wonder how much dust and particulate matter was spewed into the air
> during the war from things like bombings, fires, and rampant industrial
> processes where nobody cared about pollution because they needed what
> was being produced.
>

Indeed. Sulphates & particulates cool, co2 & CH4 warm.....


Have a look at all the rebuttals to the program because it's only through
debate that the mean of truth starts to be approached.

Adam

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