From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">


> FWIW I'm not arguing that we have a lesser murder rate - just that your
> society isn't as peaceful and crime free as Phil espouses
>

No society is. We are however significantly less armed (inc the police)
& thus armed events cause a huge outcry here.

But wrt crimes of property.....that'll be just about the same anywhere
given you have poor & less poor & wrt sex crimes....if you have
humans then....etc.

> Also the British rates seem to be a result of a 'don't ask - don't get'
> mentality
>

Hum. I have a great deal of time for civitas but in common with many
"think tanks" looking to pay their bills they need to be a bit
sensationalist in order to pay the bills.

As an example from the quote below:

"the Government has every intention of pretending that the crime
problem is under control."

How Long have humans been around? & How long has crime been around?

Almost by definition.....the "crime problem" is not under any
gov's control.

But the piece gives one the impression that it could be.

Adam


> http://www.civitas.org.uk/data/crimeFiguresMain.php
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> the same can be said of the 2004/05 figures. The true figure is well over 35
> million, as we show below.
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> Why the huge disparity? Has there been a cover-up? Is any of this found only
> in a secret report? No, there is no secret report to be found. And, if you
> ask Home Office officials to confirm the higher figures they do so promptly.
> It's partly a case of 'If you don't ask, you don't get'. And until members
> of the public do ask - and keep on asking - the Government has every
> intention of pretending that the crime problem is under control. No
> objective observer would say that the British Crime Survey is comprehensive
> when it misses out murder, sexual offences, crimes against people under 16,
> illegal drug use and crimes against commercial premises, including thefts of
> trucks, vans and shoplifting. And no independent statistician would claim
> that the British Crime Survey was the 'most accurate' measure of crime.
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> Trying to find comparative crime rates by country is a bit like the search
> for the Holy Grail. Does anyone believe Pakistan has the lowest homicide
> rate this century?
>
> http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-countries-by-homicide-rate#wp-2000s
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