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to: GERHARD STRANGAR
from: ALLEN PRUNTY
date: 2016-09-13 06:06:00
subject: Presidential Forum

* In a message originally to Allen Prunty, Gerhard Strangar said:

 > What if there are no other sides? Like if the president came up with a
 > plan to invade Canada?

The United States President is not a King... Only Congress has the
power to declare war.  The President can order a military strike but
it's quite limited in scope without the approval of Congress.

Back shortly after 9/11 happened and the twin towers were bombed
America lost it's mind (Literally) and things went to hell pretty
quick.

Although the United States did once (about 200+ years ago) try to
invade Canada... and they were repelled.

Allen

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The United States and Canada have had a largely peaceful history. But
during the War of 1812, U.S. forces invaded their northern neighbor,
only to be stymied by a series of embarrassing mishaps. Find out what
went wrong on the 200th anniversary of the start of the Canadian
campaign, which took place on July 12, 1812.

The United States’ first foray into Canada occurred at the beginning
of the American Revolutionary War, when colonial troops marched all
the way to Quebec City before being repelled. By the time the War of
1812 rolled around almost four decades later, the so-called “war
hawk” members of Congress were clamoring for a second go-around.
There were even a few calls for part or all of Canada, then a British
colony, to be annexed. At that time, around 7.5 million people lived
in the United States, compared to only about 500,000 in Canada, many
of whom were of French or American descent rather than British.

In June 1812, the United States declared war on Great Britain, citing
among its grievances the practice of removing sailors from American
merchant ships and forcing them to serve in the British navy. The
United States also took issue with a system of blockades and licenses
designed to halt trade with Napoleonic France, and with Britain’s
supposed foment of Native American unrest. Almost immediately
thereafter, U.S. President James Madison approved a three-pronged
assault against Canada. Many Americans believed the invasion would be
a cakewalk, particularly since Britain was so distracted by the
Napoleonic Wars in Europe. Former President Thomas Jefferson called
the acquisition of Quebec a “mere matter of marching,” while
Speaker of the House Henry Clay, a prominent war hawk, declared that
the militiamen of Kentucky were capable of capturing Upper Canada
(essentially modern Ontario) and Montreal without any assistance.
There was a lot of saber rattling going on,” said John R.
Grodzinski, a history professor at the Royal Military College of
Canada, who specializes in the War of 1812.


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