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to: Robert Comer
from: Adam
date: 2005-08-21 10:08:08
subject: Re: Harvard Study To Disprove Intelligent Design

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Robert Comer wrote:
> If the bacteria is perfectly suited to their niche, there can be no mutation
> that makes them more suited...
>

Niches ain't forever. Change is the only constant when you're an organizing
layer in between layers of chaos.

Adam


> - Bob Comer
>
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:43077c49$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>
>>Bacteria mutate so fast that in a 100,000 years it would have to be the
>>case
>>that a new mutation would come along more fit to survive even in the
>>otherwise unchanging system, and as a result the new mutation would take
>>over all available space from and in effect kill off the original
>>bacteria.
>>As a result evolution would continue even in a closed unchanging system.
>>So
>>I think my point is valid.
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
>>news:43071173$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>
>>>I don't really agree, a 100,000 years isn't enough of a span of time for
>>>that to be proof.  heck, a hundred billion wouldn't be if the environment
>>>that the bacteria in hasn't changed.  (that's the key here, the bacteria
>>
>>are
>>
>>>niche players and their niche hasn't changed for the last couple of
>>
>>billion
>>
>>>years.
>>>
>>>- Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>>"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>>>news:4306b164$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>
>>>>Evolution is adaptation.  The only constant in the system called the
>>>>universe is change.  Therefore, evolution must be working always to
>>>>produce
>>>>adaptations.  If a life form existed over 100,000 years
without further
>>>>evolution, I say that's a reason to question whether evolution exists
>>>>at
>>>>all
>>>>or whether we have a proper understanding of what we call evolution.
>>>>
>>>>Gary
>>>>
>>>>"Geo"  wrote in message
news:4306aae8$3{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>
>>>>>Why?
>>>>>
>>>>>Evolution exists, it doesn't have to be a rule that
everything obeys,
>>>>
>>>>that's
>>>>
>>>>>is not required for existence.
>>>>>
>>>>>Geo.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>>>>>news:43069afe$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>>If they haven't evolved then evolution as a theory
can't be correct.
>>>>>>If
>>>>>>evolution means anything, it means that things must
evolve and must
>>>>>
>>>>>change.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Our conditions certainly aren't static for the last
100,000 years.
>>>>>
>>>>>100,000
>>>>>
>>>>>>years is how many Billions of years to a bacteria??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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