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to: Gary Britt
from: John Cuccia
date: 2005-08-25 19:31:26
subject: Re: Robertson to Chavez; Drop Dead!!!!

From: John Cuccia 

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:53:45 -0400, "Gary Britt"
 wrote:

>
>"John Cuccia"  wrote in message
>news:3u7qg1dgl01g9qs5au0e1tias1fjreq0md{at}4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:55:08 -0400, "Gary Britt"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Nah, he's talking about his god raining punishment down on the
>> infidels, just like the mullahs.  The *only* difference between him
>> (and you and Robertson) and the mullahs is that they acted on their
>> beliefs.
>
>That isn't what he said.  Nor is it what I've said.  I think you just see
>liberal stereotypes and catch phrases instead of the actual words before
>you.

So, you think that Falwell was saying that your Jehovah lifted the
"curtain" veil to warn us against our wickedness, rather than to
punish us?    Nice, your god.

>> Sounds like he (and you and Robertson) are filled with hate if you
>> think that we deserved the attacks.
>
>I never said that, and neither did Robertson.  You can't tell the difference
>between them and us, and you can't tell the difference between hate and
>concern for a loved one or beloved country.  Its your mind that is confused.

I love my children, and am deeply concerned for their welfare, but don't
think that they "deserve" to have pieced of their bodies removed
when they behave in ways that I don't approve of.

It would be hateful if I did, don't you think?

>> You really believe that  your god was behind the 9/11 attacks?
>
>No, that statement is a reflection of your anti-religious bigotry showing
>what YOU want to believe somebody believes.  You have such *faith* in your
>bigoted stereotypes that you see words and phrases in people's writing that
>aren't there.  You devine them in some anti-religious new age mystical way,
>I guess.  It certainly isn't what I have written or the others, imho.

Read this again:
"Then Falwell said, 'What we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is,
could be miniscule if, in fact, God continues to lift the curtain and allow
the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.'"

Your god allowed this to happen, because we deserve it (probably).  It
doesn't get any plainer than that.   And here's what you said:

" This is a theological statement, and as such is perfectly
reasonable.  Quite accurate as well."

One more time: "Quite accurate as well."



>> suppose you think the HIV was his punishment for homosexuality, too?
>
>Ah how refreshing, the pro butt-fucking arguments have to be made,
>irrespective of how irrelevant to the situation.

Not irrelevant at all, Falwell (and Robertson, and you) believes that your
god allowed 9/11 to happen as a warning/punishment.  He also believes that
your god visited HIV upon homosexuals as punishment.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3781/is_200404/ai_n9357068
Jerry Falwell, always the consummate self-publicist, proclaimed AIDS as
God's punishment to the sexually wicked.


It's all of a piece.

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