From: "Mark" 

I don't recall if I'd ever heard the word pogrom either, now I have twice
in 10 minutes!:

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/005383.php
"Islamists Conduct Pogrom Against Christians In West Bank"

"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:431ca9bd$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> All bad/horrible things, but I don't really view most of them as being an
> organized "Christian" effort to oppose Jews.  They seem more
like corrupt
> politicians or politicians who were bigots acting not as the leader of
> organized Christians but as the leader of a secular government.
>
> I knew about the expulsions from Russia (thanks to "Fiddler on a
Rooftop"
> ), but didn't know about the one you mentioned in England or the
> actions
> of Napoleon.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
>
>
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:431ca4f2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> From Memory so simplistic and hopefully more accurate than not 
>>
>> During the Middle ages Rulers would occasionally mandate forgiveness of
>> debt. Since Jews were forbidden in a lot of occupations they were the
> money
>> lenders. At that time Christians were not in the money lending business (
>> usury).
>>
>> One interesting blurb from
>> http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/France.html
>>
>> "Napoleon declared all debts with Jews annulled, reduced or postponed,
> which
>> caused the near ruin of the Jewish community."
>>
>> Seems to have continued longer than I though
>>
>> England Expelled the Jews in the 13th century.Other European counties did
>> also ( other times). Interest map showing some
>>
>> http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/gallery/expuls.htm
>>
>> http://www.aztlan.net/jewexpulsions.htm - Simple listing with dates
>>
>> Pogroms were large scale riots against Jews and / other minorities  in
>> Russia.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom
>>
>> Enough has happened to the Jews over the years that I wonder how they
>> survived as a race/religion/community.
>>
>> Bob Lewis
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:431ca1bb$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > Didn't know about the "forgiveness of debts thing"
or is that a Nazi
>> > thing?
>> > Did any Christians ever expel Jews?  What's a pogrom?
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> >
>> > "Robert G Lewis" 
wrote in message
>> > news:431ca0c9{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> I thought you would.
>> >>
>> >> I can understand Jewish resentment ( sensitivity may be a better
>> >> word )
>> >> towards Christian  proselyting as well. Some of our
actions have not
> been
>> >> very Christ like in the past. Forced conversions,
pogroms, expulsions
> of
>> >> Jews ,mandatory 'forgiveness' of debts. Not all by the
Church by any
>> >> means
>> > ,
>> >> some by 'Christian' rulers etc.
>> >>
>> >> Bob Lewis
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt"  wrote
in message
>> >> news:431c9d3e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >I can understand the choosing not to donate to a religious
> organization
>> >> >that
>> >> > isn't of one's own faith as a general rule.  Not to
do it if they
> share
>> >> > their beliefs with others seems to be a different
kind of reason,
>> >> > but
>> >> > probably not much difference in its effect.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robert G Lewis"
 wrote in message
>> >> > news:431c96de{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> Well they are a Christian Church. it's in the
nature to try and
>> >> >> convert
>> >> >> everyone.Do they target Jews or simply include
them with everyone
> else
>> > ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Having said that I understand why you would not
donate to them. I
>> >> >> would
>> >> > not
>> >> >> donate to a Moslem Religious Charity or Mormons
among others. To
>> > Moslem,
>> >> >> Mormon poor etc yes but not to support their church.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bob Lewis
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Ellen K."
 wrote in message
>> >> >> news:vdmnh15917v4evboqg2ipoh0mhit139u0t{at}4ax.com...
>> >> >> > The Salvation Army does.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 15:47:16 -0400,
"Gary Britt"
>> > 
>> >> >> > wrote in message :
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>1.  The Red Cross tries to convert Jews????
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>2.  What is the definition of tries to convert???
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Gary
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
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