"EKurtz" 
> Most of the discussions here would end abruptly if they depended 
> on what was 
> in the literature.

JE:-
Then EK should simply end them with 
the appropriate literature quotes
to test his proposition because I 
don't think anybody here will take
his word for it.

OTOH, the opposite logic also applies: Some
discussion in the literature might "end
abruptly" if sbe discussion was reviewed,
e.g. the ongoing misuse of Hamilton's Rule 
within the literature to incorrectly suggest
when organism fitness altruism can evolve in
nature.

Regards,

John Edser
Independent Researcher

PO Box 266
Church Pt
NSW 2105
Australia

edser{at}tpg.com.au
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