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echo: dads
to: Maurice Kinal
from: Sharon Coyne
date: 2005-07-03 07:33:26
subject: Guinness

SC>> This thinking is where the book "Men are from Mars:Women are from
 SC> SC>> Venus" started I guess. Sure that would fail if the only
 SC>> reason a man goes out with you is for an intimate encounter
 SC>> (being nice there hehehe).

 MK> I think most men figure that if they don't think that way then there
 MK> is something wrong with them.  However, at the same time they do think
 MK> that way so maybe there is something wrong with them.  :-/

And they were taught that by their fathers and their fathers were taught that
by their grandfathers, etc. What gets me is the double standard. If a guy has a
lot of conquests he is a super stud, but if a woman does she is a w***e. That
still hasn't changed.


 SC>> I would like to think, but know it isn't true, that a guy would want
 SC>> to get to know me before "that" happened and at least like me.

 MK> I agree.  That is usually the best case scenerio.

Those have a better chance of leading into a relationship at least.


 SC>> The problem is that most men were taught
 SC>> that they are owed the intimate encounter just because.

 MK> Something like that but I think it may have more to do with the idea
 MK> that they failed somehow if it doesn't happen.

But who considers it a failure? It is the other men. Men have more of a
tendency to ask if another *got any* than a woman would another woman.


 SC>> See, it is the men that cause the tension in a date.

 MK> For sure although that tension was probably there before the date even
 MK> started.

What is it that I heard? A man goes on a date wondering if he will get any and
the woman already knows. ;-)


 SC>> Of course,
 SC>> it is a different story if both want it. That could happen. ;-)

 MK> I'd like to believe that is possible.  I think it is.  You really have
 MK> to be careful about that though (both sexes).  Despite any natural
 MK> urges I think the getting to know each other first is a solid plan.
 MK> Most often that won't get me what I really want but then again that
 MK> might actually be a very good thing.  Dating is a very tricky
 MK> business.

I just feel that isn't something you should even have as a goal on a first date
anyway. The first date should be talking and seeing if that *spark* is there.

Sharon

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