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to: Gary Britt
from: Mark
date: 2005-09-08 16:09:00
subject: Re: Email I Got From John Kerry Today

From: "Mark" 

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Perhaps, after reading this piece, you'll come to a better understanding =
of the whys and wherefores of Buffet's positions:

http://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/20040823/full.asp#037476
Buffetted: The Sage of Omaha loves the estate tax =97 as well he might

  "Gary Britt"  wrote in message =
news:432082c1$1{at}w3.nls.net...

  "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message =
news:43206c4f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >=20
  > "Gary Britt"  wrote in message=20
  > news:431fbfd7$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >=20
  > Now don't leave out the Scaifes , the coors or the bug republicans

  Bug republicans?

  >=20
  > I got a real kick hearing Warren Buffet saying that under the =
proposed tax=20
  > code changes he could structure his pay in a way that he would pay =
less in=20
  > taxes that his secertary . All he had to do was to take dividends =
instead of=20
  > Income from the company.

  Not quite true.  He would have to pay himself a reasonable salary for =
his circumstances, experience performance past history, etc. and that =
would be subject to the full tax rates for that level of income, and = then
any remaining profits less the corporate tax of 28% or 35% (not = sure of
the rate) could be paid as dividends and taxed again at 15% flat = rate. 
So the combined taxes paid on the income that yielded the cash to = pay the
dividends would be 28% plus 15% or 43%, which is likely to be a = tad bit
higher than his secretary. =20

  While Warren Buffett may not need that reward, providing incentives to =
people who create valuable jobs in the economy, employ others, take the =
risks of losing their money, credit, home, etc, isn't a bad thing.  Have =
more money after taxes for a small business owner (the people who create =
50% or more of the jobs in this country) means having the ability to =
further grow their businesses and create more jobs and wealth in the =
economy.  Somebody not having to pay their shirt in taxes or receiving = an
indirect reward for providing wealth and jobs to half the country or = more
isn't a bad thing.  Its a GOOD thing.  Good for everyone.

  Buffett is free to give any amount he wants to the federal government =
if he feels undertaxed.   But he's an out of touch Ultra Rich guy who =
advocates things that would be quite harmful to the economy and lives of =
the middle income people who run their own small businesses and aren't =
Ultra Rich multi-Billionaires.

  Buffett is such an Ultra-Rich Billionaire, he's forgotten what it was =
like to just be a middle class business owner, employing several = hundreds
of people and only making $500,000 per year upon which the = combined tax
rates would be no less than 30% to 35% and whose marginal = tax rate on
each new dollar earned would be no less than 39% not = counting state
income taxes and Social Security taxes.

  Gary
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Perhaps, after reading this piece, =
you'll come to a=20
better understanding of the whys and wherefores of Buffet's=20
positions:
 

http://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/20040823/full.asp#037476=
>
Buffetted: The Sage of Omaha loves the =
estate tax =97=20
as well he might
 
"Gary Britt" <zotu{at}nospamforme.com>">mailto:zotu{at}nospamforme.com">zotu{at}nospamforme.com> = wrote in=20 message news:432082c1$1{at}w3.nls.net... "Robert G Lewis" <r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net>">mailto:r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net">r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net> = wrote in=20 message news:43206c4f$1{at}w3.nls.net... > > "Gary Britt" <zotu{at}nospamforme.com>">mailto:zotu{at}nospamforme.com">zotu{at}nospamforme.com> = wrote in=20 message > news:431fbfd7$1{at}w3.nls.net...= >=20 > Now don't leave out the Scaifes , the coors or the bug=20 republicans Bug republicans? > > I got a real kick hearing Warren Buffet saying that = under=20 the proposed tax > code changes he could structure his pay in a = way=20 that he would pay less in > taxes that his secertary . All he = had to do=20 was to take dividends instead of > Income from the = company. Not quite true. He would have to pay himself a reasonable = salary=20 for his circumstances, experience performance past history, etc. and = that=20 would be subject to the full tax rates for that level of income, and = then any=20 remaining profits less the corporate tax of 28% or 35% (not = sure of=20 the rate) could be paid as dividends and taxed=20 again at 15% flat rate. So the combined = taxes paid=20 on the income that yielded the cash to pay the dividends would be = 28%=20 plus 15% or 43%, which is likely to be a tad bit higher than his=20 secretary. While Warren Buffett may not need that reward, providing = incentives to=20 people who create valuable jobs in the economy, employ others, take = the risks=20 of losing their money, credit, home, etc, isn't a bad thing. = Have more=20 money after taxes for a small business owner (the people who create = 50% or=20 more of the jobs in this country) means having the ability to further = grow=20 their businesses and create more jobs and wealth in the economy. = Somebody not having to pay their shirt in taxes or receiving an = indirect=20 reward for providing wealth and jobs to half the country or more isn't = a bad=20 thing. Its a GOOD thing. Good for everyone. Buffett is free to give any amount he wants to the federal = government if=20 he feels undertaxed. But he's an out of touch Ultra Rich = guy who=20 advocates things that would be quite harmful to the economy and lives = of the=20 middle income people who run their own small businesses and aren't = Ultra Rich=20 multi-Billionaires. Buffett is such an Ultra-Rich Billionaire, he's forgotten what it = was=20 like to just be a middle class business owner, employing several = hundreds=20 of people and only making $500,000 per year upon which the = combined tax=20 rates would be no less than 30% to 35% and whose marginal tax rate on = each new=20 dollar earned would be no less than 39% not counting state income = taxes and=20 Social Security taxes. Gary ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C5B48F.A0C909E0-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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