TIP: Click on subject to list as thread! ANSI
echo: barktopus
to: Mark
from: Robert Comer
date: 2005-09-14 09:23:26
subject: Re: Taybeh

From: "Robert Comer" 

He seems pretty reasonable to me too, especially about RvW, precedent, and law.

Btw, I am not pro-abortion, but the law is the law and the court is is
there to interpret the law.

- Bob Comer


"Mark"  wrote in message
news:4327a620{at}w3.nls.net...
> Thank goodness that Bush put up Roberts. His surprisingly (and thankfully)
> candid answer as to the question on whether the Supremes should cite and
> use foreign law in their decisions for our country, was a resounding NO.
> 
>
> He used the example of looking out into a crowd and recognizing only those
> in same crowd that were friends and using only their viewpoints.
> Paraphrasing: he said that once one wants to support a position and use
> other than our constitution to do so, one can pick and choose from an
> endless array of countries until one finds the ones that support the
> position -- it's BS >
>
> If the dopes on there now keep edging toward their PC "check the
world"
> first shenanigans, they'll be using Iranian laws to invoke Islam on us --
> sounds ridiculous doesn't it? Wanna bet your freedom on their not getting
> carried away?
>
> Sounds like Roberts (and hopefully the next nominee) will keep them in
> check  with such nonsense, having retired is helpful on its own>
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:4327a158{at}w3.nls.net...
>> That's also why a separation of church and state is so necessary in this
>> country. By their very nature of 'true' belief and intense desire to save
>> us all Christianity and Islam can easily  be hijacked by fanaticism
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:43279f62$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>I saw some stuff on this about a week ago, but this article provides a
>>>lot
>>> more detail.  I think my comment at the time was "ah
Islam, the religion
>>> of
>>> peace".
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if there will be any solution for decades to come.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> "Ellen K."  wrote in message
>>> news:mc7fi1dj2sjdennvg083nuaefb2oblev07{at}4ax.com...
>>>> Christianity Dying in Its Birthplace
>>>>
>>>> by Daniel Pipes
>>>> New York Sun
>>>> September 13, 2005
>>>> http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2937
>>>>
>>>> What some observers are calling a pogrom took place near
Ramallah, West
>>>> Bank, on the night of September 3-4. That's when 15 Muslim
youths from
>>>> one village, Dair Jarir, rampaged against Taybeh, a neighboring
>>>> all-Christian village of 1,500 people.
>>>>
>>>> The reason for the assault? A Muslim woman from Dair
Jarir, Hiyam Ajaj,
>>>> 23, fell in love with her Christian boss, Mehdi Khouriyye,
owner of a
>>>> tailor shop in Taybeh. The couple maintained a clandestine two-year
>>>> affair and she became pregnant in about March 2005. When her family
>>>> members learned of her condition, they murdered her. That
was on about
>>>> September 1; unsatisfied even with this "honor
killing"  for Islamic
>>>> law strictly forbids non-Muslim males to have sexual relations with
>>>> Muslim females  the Ajaj men sought vengeance against Khouriyye and
>>>> his
>>>> family.
>>>>
>>>> They took it two days later in an assault on Taybeh. The Ajajs and
>>>> their
>>>> friends broke into houses and stole furniture, jewelry,
and electrical
>>>> appliances. They threw Molotov cocktails at some buildings
and poured
>>>> kerosene on others, then torched them. The damage included
at least 16
>>>> houses, some stores, a farm, and a gas station. The assailants
>>>> vandalized cars, looted extensively, and destroyed a statue of the
>>>> Virgin Mary.
>>>>
>>>> "It was like a war," one Taybeh resident told
the Jerusalem Post. Hours
>>>> passed before the Palestinian Authority security and fire services
>>>> arrived. The 15 assailants spent only a few hours in
police detention,
>>>> then were released. As for Khouriyye, the Palestinian Arab police
>>>> arrested him, kept him in jail, and (his family says) have
repeatedly
>>>> beat him.
>>>>
>>>> As the news service Adnkronos International notes, for Palestinian
>>>> Christians "the fact that the Muslim aggressors have
been released
>>>> while
>>>> the Christian tailor-shop owner is still being held, at
best symbolizes
>>>> the PA's indifference to the plight of Palestinian
Christians, at worst
>>>> shows it is taking sides against them."
>>>>
>>>> A cousin, Suleiman Khouriyye, pointed to his burned house.
"They did
>>>> this because we're Christians. They did this because we
are the weaker
>>>> ones," he said The Khouriyyes and others recall the
assailants shouting
>>>> "Allahu Akbar" and anti-Christian slogans:
"Burn the infidels, burn the
>>>> Crusaders." To that, an unrepentant cousin of Hiyam
Ajaj replied, "We
>>>> burned their houses because they dishonored our family, not because
>>>> they
>>>> are Christians."
>>>>
>>>> This assault fits a larger pattern. According to the
Catholic Custodian
>>>> of the Holy Land, Pierbattista Pizzaballa, Christians in
the Bethlehem
>>>> region alone have suffered 93 cases of injustice in 2000-04. In the
>>>> worst of these, in 2002, Muslims murdered the two Amre
sisters, 17 and
>>>> 19 years old, whom they called prostitutes. A post-mortem, however,
>>>> showed the teenagers to have been virgins  and to have been tortured
>>>> on
>>>> their genitals.
>>>>
>>>> "Almost every day  I repeat, almost every day  our
communities are
>>>> harassed by the Islamic extremists in these regions,"
Mr. Pizzaballa
>>>> says. "And if it's not the members of Hamas or
Islamic Jihad, there are
>>>> clashes with  the Palestinian Authority." In addition to the
>>>> Islamists,
>>>> a "Muslim land mafia" is said to operate. With
PA complicity, it
>>>> threatens Christian land and house owners, often
succeeding to compel
>>>> them to abandon their properties.
>>>>
>>>> The campaign of persecution has succeeded. Even as the Christian
>>>> population of Israel grows, that of the Palestinian
Authority shrinks
>>>> precipitously. Bethlehem and Nazareth, historic Christian towns for
>>>> nearly two millennia, are now primarily Muslim. In 1922, Christians
>>>> outnumbered Muslims in Jerusalem; today, Christians amount
to a mere 2%
>>>> of that city's population.
>>>>
>>>> "Is Christian life liable to be reduced to empty
church buildings and a
>>>> congregation-less hierarchy with no flock in the birthplace of
>>>> Christianity?" So asks Daphne Tsimhoni in the Middle
East Quarterly. It
>>>> is hard to see what will prevent that ghost-like future from coming
>>>> into
>>>> existence.
>>>>
>>>> One factor that could help prevent this dismal outcome would be for
>>>> mainline Protestant churches to speak out against
Palestinian Muslims
>>>> for tormenting and expelling Palestinian Christians. To date,
>>>> unfortunately, the Episcopalian, Evangelical Lutheran,
Methodist, and
>>>> Presbyterian churches, as well as the United Church of Christ, have
>>>> ignored the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Instead, they pursue the self-indulgent path of venting
moral outrage
>>>> against the Israeli bystander and even withdrawing their investment
>>>> funds from it. As they obsess with Israel but stay silent about
>>>> Christianity dying in its birthplace one wonders what it
will take to
>>>> awaken them.
>>>>
>>>> To comment on this article, please go to
>>>> http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2937#comment
>>>> To see the Daniel Pipes archive, go to http://www.DanielPipes.org
>>>>
>>>> To subscribe to or unsubscribe from this list, go to
>>>> http://www.DanielPipes.org/subscribe.php
>>>>    (Daniel Pipes sends out a mailing of his writings 2-3
times a week.)
>>>>
>>>> Sign up for related (but non-duplicating) e-mail services:
>>>>    Middle East Forum (media alerts, event reports, MEQ articles):
>>>> http://www.meforum.org/subscribe.php
>>>>      Campus Watch (research, news items, press releases):
>>>> http://www.campus-watch.org/subscribe.php
>>>>
>>>> You may freely forward this information, but on condition
that you send
>>>> the text as an integral whole along with complete
information about its
>>>> author, date, and source.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

--- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
* Origin: Barktopia BBS Site http://HarborWebs.com:8081 (1:379/45)
SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 5030/786
@PATH: 379/45 1 633/267

SOURCE: echomail via fidonet.ozzmosis.com

Email questions or comments to sysop@ipingthereforeiam.com
All parts of this website painstakingly hand-crafted in the U.S.A.!
IPTIA BBS/MUD/Terminal/Game Server List, © 2025 IPTIA Consulting™.