Replying to a message of mark lewis to Bob Ackley:

 ml>>  ""if anyone orders you to shoot an American Citizen, turn your
 ml>>    weapon on the one giving the order.""

 ml>> the above is a quote from a book, a real good book, that carries a
 ml>> lot of smart advice for today's world even though it is a work of
 ml>> fiction... IIRC, it is a book by Orsen Scott Card... at this time,
 ml>> there are two in the series but i do not recall either of their
 ml>> names... damned good book and very enlightening if one reads them
 ml>> with an eye on what is going on in today's world...

 BA>> While I agree with the sentiment expressed, a significant majority of
 BA>> those on active service in the military do not.  Some years back a
 BA>> survey was done 

 ml> how many years back? mid 2000's??

About ten years.  Very early 2000s or maybe late 1990s.

 BA>> (IIRC of Navy SEALS) that asked basically "Would you shoot 
 BA>> Americans who refused to give up their firearms when ordered to do 
 BA>> so?"  Most replied 'yes.' 

 ml> :? :(

Really, they said yes.

 BA>> When somebody leaked the survey to the media - and it deservedly
 BA>> received a lot of negative comment - the Pentagon brushed it off as
 BA>> an individual officer doing research for an advanced degree.

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