From: "Mark" 

I think it was perfectly sequitorial (or logical, if you insist on real
words) position, as in, you suddenly find the Saudis credible (even as you
throw in a "they're friends of Bush" line of derision) when their
espoused point of view coincides with your own permanently preconceived
notion of the Iraq branch of the war on terror as being a misguided fool's
errand that will result in Armageddon.... 


"John Cuccia"  wrote in message
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> Non-sequitor.  Please reply with something that makes sense.
>
> On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 01:08:20 -0400, "Mark"
 wrote:
>
>>No, I think that if you're reduced to relying on Saudi interpretations of
>>how the operation is going, that it's a sure bet that things are going
>>even
>>better than even I, and Hekyll, thought.
>>
>>"John Cuccia"  wrote in message
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>>> Hey, the Saudis are Bush's friends, not mine.
>>>
>>> The fact that they are concerned in no way implies that there
is "good
>>> news for progress" in Iraq.  Do you think that they really aren't
>>> friends of the Bush family and that they are trying to undermine the
>>> work of the Bushies in the region?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:55:25 -0400, "Mark"
 wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well, if Prince Saud al-Faisal is taking your position that
all is lost,
>>>>that should be good news for progress in Iraq indeed -- or
is there some
>>>>reason that the Saudis suddenly have credibility in your eyes?
>>>>
>>>>"John Cuccia"  wrote in message
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>>>>>I bet the prospect chills the cockles of the Prince's
Sunni heart:
>>>>>
>>>>>
http://nytimes.com/2005/09/23/politics/23diplo.html?hp&ex=1127448000&en=0
13b9cacddbc00a1&ei=5094&partner=homepage
>>>>> WASHINGTON, Sept. 22 - Prince Saud al-Faisal, the Saudi foreign
>>>>> minister, said Thursday that he had been warning the Bush
>>>>> administration in recent days that Iraq was hurtling toward
>>>>> disintegration, a development that he said could drag
the region into
>>>>> war.
>>>>>
>>>>> "There is no dynamic now pulling the nation
together," he said in a
>>>>> meeting with reporters at the Saudi Embassy here.
"All the dynamics
>>>>> are pulling the country apart." He said he was so
concerned that he
>>>>> was carrying this message "to everyone who will
listen" in the Bush
>>>>> administration.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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