JK>SK> And, WHO are you speaking of? I've never met a drug addict that
JK>SK> was  doing drugs to "fix" anything, except their pain..
 
JK>THE ONLY REASON DRUGS ARE USED IS TO AFFECT THE BRAIN AND CENTRAL
JK>NERVOUS  SYSTEM.
But you stated "fix", not effect. (affect is NOT the correct word, 
"Nurse" Kelley).
JK>  In short, to alter the brain chemistry.  Period.
That is true. But, not necessarily to "fix" anything. That is an 
absolute without any substantiation.
JK>Anything else is an  excuse.
No, other explanations can be equally true. You just state whatever you 
wish without basis.
JK>  This idea of "pain" comes from those
JK>who are too psychologically  crippled to live in modern society
JK>without chemical help.  Treatment consists  of teaching them how to
JK>do just that.
What? You mean live on "meds" instead of "drugs", right? THAT is your 
cure? No wonder noone ever becomes "not addicted" on your planet. Or, is 
it just that the "addict for life" has to go to A.A. meetings for the 
rest of their sorry existence?
JK>There is no such thing as "was a drug addict". 
Actually, there is...... ME! 
A.A. doesn't believe this. R.R. does. You see R.R. (Rational Recovery) 
DOESN'T push that victimizing line that "you are helpless against your 
addiction" crap. R.R. says "YOU are the ONLY person that can do it! Now, 
DO IT! STOP! Stop being a victim!"
You see, that works for many people. It makes people "OWN" their 
recovery. It doesn't put it in the hands of God or other people. I'm 
proof it works.
JK> Had you any form of
JK>treatment  for addiction or attended even a few meetings of
JK>Alcoholics Anonymous or  Narcotics Anonymous, you would have learned
JK>addicted to that.
THAT was my point. I DON'T believe the A.A. methodology or it's message.
THAT is why I believe and follow R.R. (Rational Recovery).
JK> You are permanently  whatever drug you chose plus
JK>addicted to you have a tendency to become rapidly  any other drug in
JK>that same class!  Three days of use will be all  that it takes to
JK>turn you into a confirmed addict to any other drug in the  same
JK>class. 
You are wrong. You just buy the A.A. line. I don't.
JK>I've seen addicts in recovery for years, have worked for a
JK>couple of the best  drug counselors in both Tacoma and Seattle.
And you did the A.A. and N.A. model....I understand what you are saying.
I don't believe in it. It makes VICTIMS for life.
JK>  Just what do
JK>you think you can contribute to the  knowledge I have piled up from
JK>sitting on hard chairs through two pages of  seminars and workshops
JK>on addiction and related subjects after graduation from  the oldest
JK>school in the nation for counselors? 
EXPERIENCE at being a drug addict. Real, and personal, KNOWLEDGE! 
Information. Truth. Facts. 
JK> What have you got to say that
JK>those who were incarcerated in the old King County Jail didn't?
That they should look into R.R., that's what.
JK> Your posts indicate a total
JK>and complete lack of any real understanding of  the disease of
JK>addiction or what it takes to break the hold that drugs have on
JK>someone and what to do to help that person stay clean and sober.
You are incorrect. You see...._I_ am an EX-drug addict. _I_ am proof.
JK>Your  experience is limited to one person's, your own.
And so is yours. But, YOUR experience is limited...because YOU weren't 
addicted. I've been on BOTH sides, you haven't.
JK> And that, I was 
JK>informed at  Seattle University, is not enough to do any good at all
JK>in this world today.
I am doing more to HELP people than YOU are! Because _I_ care! YOU 
don't. YOU want to put people in prison. YOU call people that do drugs 
NAMES! YOU don't care! You despise other human's for their poor 
choices...then would condemn them to death for speaking freely. YOU are 
a fascist! You are uncaring and cruel. 
JK>   If you want to really do something, then get
JK>your rear end to those who will  teach you how to help other addicts.
I already know how, and _I_ LIVE IT! I work with R.R. Have you ever 
heard of it? Do YOU care? I don't want to line people up against a wall 
and shoot them for making bad decisions, YOU DO!
AND
YOU are the one that insults me because I'm an EX-addict....by saying 
I'm posting from Folsom Prison. As if YOU care. BULL!
YOU DON'T CARE! That much is obvious. You are speaking to an ex-
addict....but, all you have is disdain....all you have is hate!
You are an ignorant and hateful bigot....that cares for NOONE! 
Especially those that DO care. Go away! You are only hurting 
the efforts of good people to stop what IS a bad thing...drug use. 
HOW DARE YOU say that I don't care! HOW DARE YOU say that I'm not clean!
HOW DARE YOU think that YOU can speak for all people ...THAT DO CARE!
You are the most hateful and ignorant person I've EVER had
contact with....and I was a crack, crank, and pill addict. Those drug 
dealers cared more than you.  We don't need more Hitler's and Stalins', 
like you.
Talk about gardening or knitting. To talk about a REAL problem with such 
ignorance is HARMFUL to people. Don't you understand? You are an AltMed  
drug dealing hater of human's. Please stop before someone buys that line 
of crap about you being a nurse, and dies. 
YOU ARE A LIAR! 
STOP, before someone dies from your stupid act.
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