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to: Gary Britt
from: Robert G Lewis
date: 2005-10-01 13:15:02
subject: Re: Delay going down?

From: "Robert G Lewis" 


From the article

>The foreman, William M. Gibson Jr., a retired state insurance investigator,
>said the Travis County grand jury waited until Wednesday, the final day of
>its >term, to indict him because it was hoping he would accept jurors'
>invitation to testify.


>Dick DeGuerin, the attorney representing DeLay, said Thursday that DeLay
>actually was invited to appear before the grand jury, where he would have
>been >under oath. The Houston attorney was not yet on the legal team when
>DeLay was asked to appear, but he said other attorneys advised him not to
>testify — >a decision DeGuerin supports.

>DeGuerin said that DeLay may have been referring in the interviews to the
>fact that the grand jury did not subpoena him to testify.

>Gibson said there was an open invitation, but the grand jury decided not to
>force him to appear

The article sure as hell does confirm what I stated That Delay was INVITED
to appear. His OWN LAWYER SAID SO

So Delay would have been ALLOWED to testify



No it doesn't say that Earle delivered a subpoena or pother invitation.
Which is totally irrelavant. You said Delay was not allowed. I said he was
invited. The ARTICLE Says he was INVITED.



Perhaps you could come up with valid evidence to support your statements ?



"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:433ecf17$1{at}w3.nls.net...

> The link you provide does not confirm that what you state.  Delay says he
> was never invited.  The Foreman said they wanted to hear from him, but it
> DOES NOT SAY that Ronnie Earle delivered a subpoena or other invitation to
> Delay to testify.  So Delay was NOT allowed to testify nor were any other
> exculpatory witnesses.
>
> Gary
>
>
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:433dbde5$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Delay was invited to appear.
>>
>> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/3376104
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:433da8d2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > In Texas grand juries are appointed by some county official.  They
> aren't
>> > drawn from a pool of voters at random.  In the county in question, it
>> > is
> a
>> > far left wing Democrat county (the only one in Texas).  The people who
>> > appointed the grand jurors are all liberal democrats stung by what they
>> > can
>> > no longer win state wide at the ballot box.   So the far left liberal
>> > democrat politician appoints a nice group of far left liberal DEMOCRATS
> to
>> > be the grand jurors.  Then the grand jury only hears and sees what
> Ronnie
>> > tells them and only the way Ronnie tells them.  Among those they never
>> > hear
>> > from are Tom Delay himself who wasn't allowed to testify before the
> grand
>> > jury, and any other exculpatory matters or witnesses.  Further, Ronnie
> has
>> > had to use several grand juries over a two year period before he
>> > finally
>> > gets one partisan and stupid enough to make this ridiculous indictment.
>> >
>> > And given all that the grand jury couldn't come up with a single
>> > allegation
>> > of fact that Tom Delay did or said anything in the indictment.
>> >
>> > Dream on.  This case will never go to a completed trial, and there will
>> > never be a plea agreement.  The statement you quote from the grand
>> > juror
>> > is
>> > HIGHLY inappropriate btw and may violate the law.  A grand jury does
>> > not
>> > weigh if there is enough evidence to prove somebody guilty as this guy
>> > stated.  They are just looking for enough to state their is probable
> cause
>> > to believe its possible somebody did something.  The statement by this
> guy
>> > is just a continuation of the unethical practices of Democrats all over
>> > the
>> > country.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> > news:433d89e2{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt"  wrote
in message
>> >> news:433d849d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> > Wrong again.  You just aren't paying attention to
the posts.  The
>> >> > democrats
>> >> > he's prosecuted were his political opponents.  They were
>> >> > conservative
>> >> > democrats and at a time long ago when Republicans
didn't hold the
>> > offices.
>> >> > His record is that of making "political"
prosecutions of those
> opposed
>> > to
>> >> > his liberal end of the Texas Democratic party.  That includes
>> > conservative
>> >> > democrats in power and the republicans who replaced those
> conservative
>> >> > democrats.
>> >> >
>> >> > Your stat is meaningless.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Gotta go after former deputy sherrifs now. I can see it
now - FoxNews
>> >> reports on the 'Conspiracy of the 12'  right after their brilliant
> report
>> > on
>> >> why Opensource is bad for Massachusetts
>> >>
>> >> http://billmon.org/archives/002204.html
>> >>
>> >> Foreman William Gibson [says] he did his duty and that bound him to
> look
>> > at
>> >> Tom Delay as just another Texan accused of criminal
conspiracy . . .
>> >> "I
>> > like
>> >> his aggressiveness and everything, and I had nothing
against the House
>> >> majority man, but I felt that we had enough evidence, not
only me, but
>> >> the
>> >> other grand jury members," Gibson said . . .
>> >>
>> >> The evidence is there to prove Delay was involved in wrongdoing and
> also
>> >> prove that he and his fellow grand jurors acted independent of
> political
>> >> influence, Gibson said.
>> >>
>> >> "It wasn't Mr. Earle that indicted the man. It was
the 12 members of
> the
>> >> grand jury," Gibson said.
>> >>
>> >> Gibson is a former sheriff's deputy and a former
investigator for what
> is
>> >> now the Texas Department of Insurance.
>> >>
>> >> DeLay: Goddamn commie hippie sheriff's deputies!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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