From: "Robert G Lewis" 

Some of the money may have been donated during the 60 day window from what I've read.

Either way its now in the hands of the Texas Judicial system.


FWIW the common dreams links to the documents are not currently working .

Bob Lewis

"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
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> Yes, corps gave money to a PAC and the PAC later gave money to candidates
> within the 60 days.   PAC's can give money at any time to the candidates
> because they aren't corporations under Texas Law.  The only party that
> couldn't give money within 60 days was a CORP.  But the CORP gave the
> money
> way before the 60 days before deadline.  That's why the corp isn't charged
> with anything.  It didn't do anything wrong.
>
> At the time the corp(s) cut the check(s) it was perfectly legal for the
> corps to cut the checks DIRECTLY to the candidates!!!!!   Delay is charged
> with conspiring to cause the corp to do something that if the corp had
> done
> it directly to the candidates at the time the corp cut the checks was
> PERFECTLY LEGAL.
>
> Its a joke.  The indictment might not survive a motion to quash, but a
> "conspiracy" charge doesn't take much at all to survive a
motion to quash.
>
> Gary
>
>
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:433c4b93$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> There were apparently money transfers within the 60 day window
>>
>> http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/0929-14.htm
>>
>> Has links to the documents.
>>
>> Whether Delay is guilty or not is now in the hands of the Texas Courts.
>>
>> Bob Lewis
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:433c47d7$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > That's wholly unrelated to Delay.  Sorry to disappoint you.  Delay is
>> > apparently charged (without any evidence or specifics apparently) of
>> > conspiring to cause corp A to do something bad with corp B.  Neither of
>> > the
>> > corps are charged with doing anything bad.  So he's charged with
>> > conspiring
>> > to make some corp do a bad thing, but apparently there is no evidence
>> > of
>> > the
>> > corps actually doing a bad thing.
>> >
>> > The reason for that is that the acts the corps did were perfectly legal
>> > and
>> > Delay has been charged with conspiring to cause corp A and corp B to do
>> > something which was in fact perfectly legal.
>> >
>> > The exact statute involved is really about corp A giving money to
>> > politicians within 60 days of the election.  The problem is the money
> was
>> > given months before 60 days before the election and isn't a violation
>> > period.  So then Earle trumped up this conspiracy charge that involves
>> > a
>> > conspiracy to pay money out of the wrong bank account.  Ohhhh...   what
> a
>> > charge.  Conspiracy to write a check from the wrong bank account.
>> >
>> > Its completely laughable.  There is no case and no charge.  The case
> will
>> > never go to trial just as Earle has done so many times in the past on
>> > these
>> > baseless political indictments the case will be dismissed.  Earle won't
> go
>> > to trial because he has no case and he knows he has no case.
>> >
>> > Just keep watching.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> > news:433c34f8$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> So was that a liberal Democrat FBI Agent that Safavian is
accused of
>> >> lying
>> >> to? 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2005/09/29/BL2005092900472.
html
>> >>
>> >> And they are sure to add that Republican lobbyist (and close DeLay
>> >> pal)
>> > Jack
>> >> Abramoff is under indictment in one case and under investigation in
>> > others,
>> >> while the top White House procurement official, David Safavian, was
>> > accused
>> >> last week of lying and obstruction in the Abramoff probe. A special
>> >> prosecutor is still sniffing around the Valerie Plame leak, and the
>> >> FDA
>> >> commissioner quit weeks into his tenure for failing to
report holdings
> on
>> >> his financial disclosure form, says the NYT .
>> >>
>> >> http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/opinion/12759763.htm
>> >> Safavian was arrested on charges unrelated to his
procurement duties.
> The
>> >> FBI says he lied to federal investigators in the 18-month
>> >> investigation
>> >> of
>> >> ultimate administration insider, lobbyist Jack Abramahoff.
>> >>
>> >> That may not sound like a big thing. But it was enough to
earn Martha
>> >> Stewart and Lil' Kim some slammer time.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt"  wrote
in message
>> >> news:433c259b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Rich Gauszka" 
wrote in message
>> >> > news:433b4cf4{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> The partisan DA has prosecuted 3 times more
Democrats for violating
>> >> >> fundraising rules in Texas. Now Delay is blaming
a newspaper for
>> > putting
>> >> >> pressure on the prosecutor.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > So many facts and so little understanding.  At the time he
>> >> > prosecuted
>> > two
>> >> > big Texas Democrats, Texas politics was that all
statewide offices
> were
>> >> > held
>> >> > by democrats.  Democrats ruled state politics and
the legislature
> with
>> > an
>> >> > Iron hand, more or less, and there were NO
Republicans in statewide
>> >> > office.
>> >> > At that time the opponents of this liberal political
hack named
> Ronnie
>> >> > Earle
>> >> > were *CONSERVATIVE* Democrats and he prosecuted them
on trumped up
>> > charges
>> >> > that weren't successful either.  He has a history of
prosecuting
> anyone
>> >> > who
>> >> > opposes him or he doesn't like, and his 3 page
indictment of Delay
> and
>> >> > others yesterday doesn't allege Delay did anything. 
At a press
>> > conference
>> >> > when asked to explain what Delay had done that was
wrong, he was
> unable
>> > to
>> >> > provide any intelligible answer.
>> >> >
>> >> > The case against Delay will NEVER go to trial.  The
indictment may
> not
>> >> > survive a motion to quash, or the charges will be
dismissed by a
> Judge.
>> >> >
>> >> > In fact some of the things Ronnie Earle has done in
his career would
> be
>> >> > federal felonies if done by a U.S. Attorney, such as
his indict for
>> >> > extortion schemes he has regularly pulled.  This is
where he indicts
> a
>> >> > person or corporation and then negotiates the dismissal of the
>> > indictment
>> >> > in
>> >> > exchange for MONEY being contributed to Ronnie
Earle's political
> causes
>> > or
>> >> > charities that his wife and children happen to run, etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > The ultimate loser this time around is going to be
Ronnie Earle.  He
> is
>> >> > going to face investigations by the bar for
unethical conduct, he
>> >> > may
>> > get
>> >> > yanked from the Delay case for unethical conduct
and/or lack of
>> >> > jurisdiction
>> >> > to bring this trumped up charge.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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