Virgo Cluster wrote:
> Hyerdahl wrote:

> Yes, I agree, and I guess one of my points was a bit
> obscure. I'm a lot more impressed with people who achieve
> through nurture than by nature, and from what I've
> seen in the past ten years or so, women -- especially
> young women -- impress me far more than men do. This
> goes for what I see in the gym as well as what I see
> in the classroom.

Hello,

I really can't talk about the state of young women
since I guess I'm an old fogey whose circle of
associates range between late 20's beyond.
I've heard that the younger generation is very
different than what had gone before.

I wouldn't be surprised if many young women were
surpassing young men.  However, as I think you've
pointed out in other threads, these young women
will be all that much more at a loss to try to
find young men who aren't "slackers".  "Clerks"
is one of my all time favorite films.

"I'm not suppposed to be here!!!!"

> Another thing that got me to jump into this thread
> is that it just seems stupid for these guys to expend
> so much effort in trying to show how superior men as
> a group are over women, because all this does is make
> whatever meager accomplishments these guys have seem
> that much less.

:-)

Actually, I'm rather proud of my own personal
accomplishments in a humble fashion.  It's not
just what I've accomplished despite the odds
I faced at times, but also what I have overall.
If I compare myself to the rest of the US population,
I think I'm in the top 20% of so.  That's not a bad feeling.

Back to accomplishments: What makes a person
a success in the long run is going to be how
well they balance their personal and professional life.
With many impressive career women you see, most
will wind up having to drop out as their accomplishments
become a liability in their personal life.

> Well, I'm flattered, but I'm probably egalitarian only
> in comparison to the typical poster in soc.men. Although
> I generally try to be objective about things, I do have
> my own issues that I whine about from time to time on
> Usenet, and overall I'm probably just a tad bit more
> to the center than Mark Sobolewski or Trainspotter is.

How?  I'm curious how you're more toward the center than
I am.

Do you deny that women's equality has no doubt
caused economic and social stress with little to show
for it?  Do you deny that the women's vote has led
socialism persisting in the states?

regards,
Mark Sobolewski



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