From: "Gary Britt" 

I don't agree that this concern is so paramount that we need to deprive
everyone else and their parents of a good values based education for the
99% of the children who would not be so affected, and public schools today
not only fail at basic educating they value at providing any value based
education because of the intolerance of some minorities.  So if the choice
is fix public schools for 99% of the kids and make it worse for the 1% that
are going to criminals anyway versus not fix it for anybody.  I'm in favor
of not throwing away the 99% for the sake of the 1% with parents who would
be happy to have their children trained to be suicide bombers.

Gary

"Ellen K."  wrote in message
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> I think as a society we have some responsibility to at least not spend
> tax dollars poisoning children's minds.
>
> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:27:45 -0400, "Gary Britt"

> wrote in message :
>
> >I'm sure they would try that and 1st Amendment free speech, but I think
it
> >could be done.   I think the requirement that the students be able to
> >perform on standardized tests and parents wanting their children to learn
> >more than how to be a suicide bomber would take care of the majority.
The
> >remainder would be children of parents who don't care if all their
children
> >study all day is how to be a suicide bomber, and kids with those kinds of
> >parents aren't going to be non-violent peace loving productive members of
> >society no matter what.  They will end up in jail before they can suicide
> >bomb something.  Or dead of street violence.
> >
> >Gary
> >
> >"Ellen K."  wrote in message
> >news:vacgj1tt1uqfgfsh36m1v0kkksbcg0mono{at}4ax.com...
> >> They would claim religious discrimination.
> >>
> >> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:53:28 -0400, "Gary Britt"

> >> wrote in message :
> >>
> >> >Yes that could happen and you make a good point, but I think the
problem
> >> >could be minimized to be no worse in its effect and results on the
> >country,
> >> >than presently exists,  by:  1.  Madrassahs that exist
outside of the
USA
> >> >don't need to really educate their students.  The students don't
really
> >have
> >> >to learn reading, writing, math, science.  Their studies
are limited
to
> >> >their brainwashing.  In the USA such schools would have
to also teach
all
> >> >these other matters, and if they fail to so do compared to the many
> >> >available alternatives many parents won't send their children their
and
> >the
> >> >schools would be decommissioned if their students couldn't achieve
> >mandatory
> >> >success rates on standardized tests.  2.  I don't think
it would be a
> >> >problem criminalizing the teaching of terrorism, violence
against the
> >USA,
> >> >its people and its institutions, or violence against
other religions
and
> >the
> >> >persons who practice them.
> >> >
> >> >I think with the above the training of new people to hate their own
> >country
> >> >wouldn't be any worse or more pervasive than exists right now.
> >> >
> >> >Gary
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Ellen K." 
wrote in message
> >> >news:56nfj15eupog2r5r77knufvroc4bk7tkci{at}4ax.com...
> >> >> The problem with that in real life would be that in
addition to for
> >> >> example more Catholic schools serving poor Hispanic
neighborhoods
and
> >> >> Jewish schools no longer pricing all but the most
committed families
> >out
> >> >> of the market, which is what you and I first think
of on reading
this
> >> >> idea, there would also be Islamist madrassahs in poor black
> >> >> neighborhoods training future generations of
homegrown terrorists.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 23:31:53 -0400, "Gary Britt"

> >> >> wrote in message :
> >> >>
> >> >> >Of course the entire problem with our differing
opinions would be
> >solved
> >> >by
> >> >> >doing away with public schools entirely and
giving parents the
right
> >to
> >> >> >designate what schools, religious or otherwise,
get the full tax
> >dollars
> >> >> >(state, federal, and local) used to educate
their children.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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