From: "John Fraser" 

Good morning Arah;

"arah"  wrote in message
news:1174724684.246966.245940{at}y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> My Dear John Fraser
>
> I know you are a wise person. What you wrote are the knowledge you
> acquired all these years from the books you read, from the news you
> hear and from what you saw. None of us are divine or received direct
> guidance from God except those we call messengers and prophets
>
> On Mar 23, 9:08 pm, "John Fraser"
 wrote:
>> Good morning Robert;
>>
>> "Holiness Unto the Lord"  wrote in
>> messagenews:GZHMh.21611$Wc.16656{at}bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>
>>     If you agree, why the "but"?  Regardless of what
Allah and Issa mean
>> in
>> their native tongue,  Islam is based largely on the Old Testament.  Like
>> all
>> other religions, it is an alternative to Christianity.  Therefore, I'm
>> not
>> suggesting any followers of Islam should be treated as followers of
>> Christ.
>> The Bible glorifies Jesus, the Qu'ran does not.
>
> You are wrong, Quran does glorifies Jesus.

    It pays some homage, but it does not glorify him as our Redeemer.

>
> Please get a copy of the Quran and read for yourself what the Quran
> said about Jesus and his virgin mother Marry
>>
>>     Yeah, it's amazing the number of followers who are so willing to die
>> for
>> their beliefs.  Pity that Christianity isn't like minded in trying to
>> seek
>> the lost.  Regardless of what the news media shows us regarding other
>> cultures, it's my opinion that people are people are people regardless of
>> ethnic origin or customs.  They all want to play with their grandchildren
>> in
>> an atmosphere of peace.  On that note of willing to die for one's
>> country,
>> the name of the game is to make the other person die for their country.
>
> You are right, thank you
>>
>>     There was a chap using the name Arah in the newsgroup recently
>> proclaiming the superiority of Islam over Christianity.  One of his
>> earliest
>> claims was the Bible is plagued with contradiction.  Everything has its
>> weaknesses, and Islam is no exception to that.  So, I did a search on
>> Mohammed and discovered there is a considerable confusion over how many
>> wives, and how many sons, and how many daughters he had.  Additionally,
>> he
>> changed careers from being a merchant to that of a mercenary, his role
>> being
>> offensive.
>
> You need to get the right references.,your read from a wrong
> references which painted wrong perception about Muhammad. If Mohammad
> is as what you described. why more and people including Christian's
> Priest and Pastors are coming to Islam. There are almost 2 billions
> Muslim and Islam is the fastest growing religion.

    My attempt was to find a balanced opinion, and my impression was there
are several versions regarding Mohammed.  One is that a number of female
slaves were included in his number of wives.  Another is that he had a son
along with four daughters, some say no son.

> All Muslims pray to One God or  Allah in Arabic the same GOD that
> Adam. Naoh, Abraham, Moses, Solomon and Jesus prayed.

    I realize that.  That is the Old Testament under Mosaic Law.  Mohammed
essentially rejected the New Testament Church.  Because he could not deny
its central character, he ensured Jesus was reduced to that of another
prophet.  Mohammed did acknowledge that nobody, including himself, could
duplicate what Jesus his number of miracles.

> But why do Christians pray to Jesus who was born to virgin Mary, Who
> sleep and get hungry and he can't even save himself from the Jews and
> the Roman.

    Was Mohammed immortal?  To answer your question, Jesus was sent to
become our redeemer.  His death became our sacrifice.  In doing so, he
became the doorway to Paradise.  What is required of us is described in
Romans 10:9 and Acts 2:38.

>
> If Jesus can't save himself , his disciples and followers from
> suffering of shame, horror of death and murder by the Roman even went
> he is alive so can someone who is dead can help you in this world or
> save you from hell fire? Why csn't Jesus stop the Jews from murdering
> John the Baptist?

    Does Mohammed stop terrorism on Arabic soil?  Of course not.  He
encouraged and participated in the murder of infidels.  Jesus taught that
we should have compassion on our enemies because their final destiny is not
pleasant.  We should be doing everything in our power to prevent that.

> So let put your thinking hat.
>
> May God show us the right path and save us from the hell fire.
>
> AMEN
>
>
>
> Get books written by Karen Armstrong,  John Esposito or Charles Gai
> Eton and you will get the true picture of Muhammad and Islam.
>
> Good luck

    Thank you and I appreciate your suggestions.  I used to have an English
copy of the Qu'ran, but it was given away years ago.  I'm not suggesting
all Islams are blood thirsty, nor can all Christians say they haven't been
in combat and killed someone.  People are people are people.  I look
forward to hearing from you.  Phil 4:8.

Cheers,
John

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