Hey Sharon!

Jul 03 07:33 05, Sharon Coyne wrote to Maurice Kinal:

 SC> And they were taught that by their fathers and their fathers were 
 SC> taught that
 SC> by their grandfathers, etc. What gets me is the double standard. If a 
 SC> guy has a
 SC> lot of conquests he is a super stud, but if a woman does she is a 
 SC> w***e. That
 SC> still hasn't changed.

For good reason!  Women are stuck with the consequences even if they are
able to get financial assistance for any 'mistakes'.  As for sons, I don't
have any but I can assure you that if and when it comes to talking to my
grandson about this particular issue I will indeed warn him about the
dangers of any conquests he may or may not feel he needs to be doing.  I
know how my father felt about this issue.  Mind you he had daughters,
sisters and a mother so perhaps he understood.

 SC>>> I would like to think, but know it isn't true, that a guy would want
 SC>>> to get to know me before "that" happened and at
least like me.

 MK>> I agree.  That is usually the best case scenerio.

 SC> Those have a better chance of leading into a relationship at least.

I believe so although there are certainly no guarentees.  However then
there are no 'mistakes' either or at least not the 'mistakes' that require
upbringing, proper or otherwise, whatever proper means.

 SC> But who considers it a failure? It is the other men. Men have more of 
 SC> a
 SC> tendency to ask if another *got any* than a woman would another 
 SC> woman.

I am not so sure about that.  Personally, I am more private about those
sorts of things, including most women.  As a rule men tend to brag about it
more then women, as well as exagerate.

 SC> What is it that I heard? A man goes on a date wondering if he will 
 SC> get any and
 SC> the woman already knows. ;-)

Probably true.  I usually assume it won't happen.  I am not sure I really
would even if I want to and it were possible.  Too many scarey things could
happen without knowing or at least thinking I know.

 SC> I just feel that isn't something you should even have as a goal on a 
 SC> first date
 SC> anyway. The first date should be talking and seeing if that *spark* 
 SC> is there.

Yeah.  A cold shower still works so a viable backup exists.

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