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from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2005-09-30 17:59:36
subject: Re: Delay going down?

From: "Rich Gauszka" 

I'll give you that Earle is currently fixated on DeLay but it seems  that
the fixation is to people in power rather than party affiliation. Whether
that fixation is righteous indignation to the abuse of power or spite seems
to be the current debate in vogue on the net.

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/nation/politics/12781914.htm
Fred Lewis, director of Campaigns for People, an Austin-based group that
works to reduce the influence of money on government, called the
politics-as-usual defense the "standard response" there to an
Earle indictment.

"Every single person he has indicted, Democrat or Republican, has
claimed politics. That's what people don't understand," he said.
"I think Ronnie Earle has just done his job. The people that are
criticizing the indictments don't know one thing about Texas law or the
facts. And frankly, they need to be quiet and let the criminal justice
process work."

Earle has taken pains to project a squeaky-clean image, at one point even
accusing himself of a misdemeanor when he discovered that his campaign
finance reports had been filed late. Still, he has not always remained
above the political fray.


"Mark"  wrote in message
news:433db28e{at}w3.nls.net...
> The more I read/hear about Earle, the curiouser he seems:
>
> The Movie: Ronnie Earle, on a Mission from God
> http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200509301738.asp
> Though the film's tone is admiring, the filmmakers allow Earle's critics
> to suggest that, given the sometimes highly politicized nature of his
> opinions, he should perhaps work in some field other than law enforcement.
> "The problem that Ronnie has is that he sees something that he believes is
> wrong," says Roy Minton, an attorney for one of the organizations
> investigated by Earle. "If you ask him, when he says, 'They're doing this'
> and 'They're doing that,' you say, 'Alright, let's assume they're doing
> that, Ronnie, is that against the law?' He will say it's wrong. You say,
> 'Well, OK, let's assume that it's wrong. Where is it that it is against
> the law?'"
>
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:433da8d2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> In Texas grand juries are appointed by some county official.  They aren't
>> drawn from a pool of voters at random.  In the county in question, it is
>> a
>> far left wing Democrat county (the only one in Texas).  The people who
>> appointed the grand jurors are all liberal democrats stung by what they
>> can
>> no longer win state wide at the ballot box.   So the far left liberal
>> democrat politician appoints a nice group of far left liberal DEMOCRATS
>> to
>> be the grand jurors.  Then the grand jury only hears and sees what Ronnie
>> tells them and only the way Ronnie tells them.  Among those they never
>> hear
>> from are Tom Delay himself who wasn't allowed to testify before the grand
>> jury, and any other exculpatory matters or witnesses.  Further, Ronnie
>> has
>> had to use several grand juries over a two year period before he finally
>> gets one partisan and stupid enough to make this ridiculous indictment.
>>
>> And given all that the grand jury couldn't come up with a single
>> allegation
>> of fact that Tom Delay did or said anything in the indictment.
>>
>> Dream on.  This case will never go to a completed trial, and there will
>> never be a plea agreement.  The statement you quote from the grand juror
>> is
>> HIGHLY inappropriate btw and may violate the law.  A grand jury does not
>> weigh if there is enough evidence to prove somebody guilty as this guy
>> stated.  They are just looking for enough to state their is probable
>> cause
>> to believe its possible somebody did something.  The statement by this
>> guy
>> is just a continuation of the unethical practices of Democrats all over
>> the
>> country.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> news:433d89e2{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>
>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>>> news:433d849d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> > Wrong again.  You just aren't paying attention to the posts.  The
>>> > democrats
>>> > he's prosecuted were his political opponents.  They were
conservative
>>> > democrats and at a time long ago when Republicans didn't hold the
>> offices.
>>> > His record is that of making "political"
prosecutions of those opposed
>> to
>>> > his liberal end of the Texas Democratic party.  That includes
>> conservative
>>> > democrats in power and the republicans who replaced those
conservative
>>> > democrats.
>>> >
>>> > Your stat is meaningless.
>>> >
>>> > Gary
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Gotta go after former deputy sherrifs now. I can see it now - FoxNews
>>> reports on the 'Conspiracy of the 12'  right after their brilliant
>>> report
>> on
>>> why Opensource is bad for Massachusetts
>>>
>>> http://billmon.org/archives/002204.html
>>>
>>> Foreman William Gibson [says] he did his duty and that bound him to look
>> at
>>> Tom Delay as just another Texan accused of criminal conspiracy
. . . "I
>> like
>>> his aggressiveness and everything, and I had nothing against the House
>>> majority man, but I felt that we had enough evidence, not only me, but
>>> the
>>> other grand jury members," Gibson said . . .
>>>
>>> The evidence is there to prove Delay was involved in wrongdoing and also
>>> prove that he and his fellow grand jurors acted independent of political
>>> influence, Gibson said.
>>>
>>> "It wasn't Mr. Earle that indicted the man. It was the 12
members of the
>>> grand jury," Gibson said.
>>>
>>> Gibson is a former sheriff's deputy and a former investigator for what
>>> is
>>> now the Texas Department of Insurance.
>>>
>>> DeLay: Goddamn commie hippie sheriff's deputies!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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