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from: `bluesmama` onebluesmama
date: 2005-03-15 16:59:00
subject: Re: Atlanta: Suspect got Gun by Overpowering the Female Depu

Hyerdahl wrote:
> bluesmama wrote:
> > Hyerdahl wrote:
> > > bluesmama wrote:
> > > > howldog wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 05:02:06 GMT, Grizzlie Antagonist
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:40:55 -0600, USA

wrote:
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > >>What is more disgusting than having women
serving on police
> > forces > isthe fact that no one in the media will admit the obvious
> --
> > that> this female (like all females) was unable to control her gun
or
> to
> > control>>the prisoner and as a result other people she was
supposedly
> > >"protecting" were killed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >I had a feeling all along that it was a female
deputy - by
the
> > > > > >sparseness of details that the news media was
providing.  I
> said
> > > > that >to someone else today. >If the authorities
are going to
> hire women for law enforcement, > why> do
> > > > > >they have to hire them from a real life applicant pool?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Why don't they hire those ass-kicking chicks
that they're
> always
> > > > > >showing on TV and in the movies?
> > >
> > > > > the flip side to this is of course, how the case finally
ended,
> > > which
> > > > > was with a very brave woman who pretty much talked him into
> > giving
> > > > > himself up, being held hostage by him for like 8 hours. Put
any
> > one
> > > > of us in her shoes and I dont know the outcome would have been
as
> > > happy.
> > >
> > > Indeed.
> > > >
> > > > Those ass-kicking chicks they're always showing on TV and in
the
> > > movies
> > > > (which are ostensibly about female
"empowerment") are just
there
> to
> > > > show some cleavage and bring in the teenage boys. Most of the
> > > > ass-kicking chicks I know are not the ones you'd like to see in
a
> > > tight
> > > > leather suit anyway. ;-)
> > > >
> > > Indeed.  There was a girl in my HS (many years ago), who was
> > nick-named
> > > "Beep Beep Truck Driver", and it wasn't because she drove a
truck.
> > :-)
> > >
> > > > But I do know a lot of women that are brave enough, and
> empathetic
> > > > enough, to talk to a desperate man instead of kicking his ass,
so
> > > maybe
> > > > there's room for all kinds of bravery in the world.
> > >
> > > Yes, as do I.  I know many many women who would kill or maim to
> save
> > > their own children, as well.  However, that being the case, I
don't
> > > know any women who believe that violence is the best way to
problem
> > > solve.
> >
> > Oh there I'm afraid we're living in different worlds, just last
> weekend
> > at the bar some leather-faced drunken biker chick tried to beat the
> > crap out of a good friend of mine...there are definitely some women
> who
> > believe violence is the way to go. I'm glad you don't know any.
Maybe
> I
> > just hang out at the wrong places..
>
> :-)  I suspect you're a bit more adventurous than me.  AND, I have
> HEARD of women who resort to violence, unless it was an issue of
> defense, but I truely don't know any personally in terms of having
> friends or even acquaintences who believe that violence is the best
way
> to problem solve.
> Even the few women I know who actually have had to resort to self
> defense, have not wished to have to do so.

Well, and in this woman's defence (the one who went nuts on my friend)
she may not see violence as the _best_ way to solve a problem; it might
have been just the course of action she chose at that particular
moment, for whatever reason.



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