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echo: dads
to: Maurice Kinal
from: Sharon Coyne
date: 2005-06-25 17:02:54
subject: Is this thing on?

SC>> I often wonder how many of the big shots could actually do the
 SC>> work the employees do for them.

 MK> That depends.  I've met ones that could but I fully understand your
 MK> wonderment on this particular issue seeing the standards for big shots
 MK> have deteriorated over the last couple of decades.  Obtaining proper
 MK> certification for those types of jobs isn't what it used to be, if
 MK> indeed proper certification or standards are even an issue anymore.

At the least they should have to take management classes and most don't. They
just get the promotion and left to themselves. My second daughter told me about
a guy she felt sorry for when he was downsized out of his job as a manager
because of his age and the difficulty for an "older" person to
get a new job.
After she thought about it more, she said once he became a manager he actually
slacked off on his job and didn't feel as bad about it. Sure, it is part of the
management job to delegate work, but they still have to work themselves. I'm
not saying all managers do this, but have seen it in my temp travels over the
year.


 SC>> Maybe more execs need to start out at the very bottom
 SC>> like that.

 MK> Could very well be some truth to that.  Used to be that engineers were
 MK> required to take welding courses and the such just so they understood
 MK> the basics.  I think that isn't done anymore by any techical or
 MK> university institution which might explain quite a bit of the recent
 MK> shoddy workmanship we hear about.  I don't know if it is any worse or
 MK> better then it ever was but many people do get the impression that
 MK> standards have deteriorated and if so then the blame could easily be
 MK> placed on the top rung of this shakey ladder, as it were.

The top rung people can be blamed for not keeping tabs on their workers and
very possibly not give them the proper training. I've run into "get the work
done even if it isn't done right" attitude.

Sharon

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