From: "Robert G Lewis" 

You are correct, you did say that someone seemed to suggest the law was dumb. Sorry


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
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>I didn't call it a dumb law.  I haven't thought about that issue enough vis
> a vis a rational USA foreign policy to have an opinion.  Regardless of who
> sponsored it in Congress, Clinton didn't veto it so he must have approved
> of
> it. 
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:43401ae9{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Okay
>>
>> BTW I think you might want to look at who were the real backers of it
> before
>> you call it a dumb law 
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:43401954$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > Someone seemed to suggest the law itself was dumb.  I was pointing out
>> > that
>> > if so, it was Clinton's dumb law, not Bush's.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > "Robert G Lewis" 
wrote in message
>> > news:43400644$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> No I'm serious, why bring up that it was a Clinton era law ?
>> >>
>> >> I can understand that in a discussion of history but don't see the
>> > relevance
>> >> here.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt"  wrote
in message
>> >> news:433f7e11$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> > Clinton didn't veto it so he must have supported it.
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Robert G Lewis"
 wrote in message
>> >> > news:433ed722$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> Bush didn't ask for MOST of our current laws to
be passed, yet I
> would
>> >> >> expect him to follow and through his Attorney
General enforce them
> as
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> would any President of the US.. So why say it
was a Clinton Era law
> ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> news:433ed60a{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> > Its a 1998 Clinton era law.  Not a law Bush
asked to be passed.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:433ed399{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> So - Bushies  "courageously"
managed to use the law against
>> >> >> >> Eritrea?
>> >> >> > It's
>> >> >> >> yet another law that makes us appear
disingenuous to the world
>> >> >> >> while
>> >> >> >> fulfilling the self serving needs of
whichever party is in
>> >> >> >> power.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:433ecc89{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> > 1998 Law.  So Bush NOT Clinton was
the brave and courageous
>> >> >> >> > President
>> >> >> > who
>> >> >> >> > put Saudi Arabia on the list for
the first time.  So Bush has
>> >> >> >> > done
>> >> > more
>> >> >> >> > against Saudi Arabia under this
law than Clinton ever did.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Gary
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > news:433ded59{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> >> >> >> Sanctions vs oil. Oil wins
each time.  Eritrea better find
> that
>> > oil
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050930/ts_nm/religion_saudi_usa_dc
>> >> >> >> >> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The
United States has postponed
> punishing
>> >> > Saudi
>> >> >> >> >> Arabia, its close ally and key
oil supplier, for restricting
>> >> > religious
>> >> >> >> >> freedom -- the first time
Washington has waived punishing a
>> >> >> >> >> blacklisted
>> >> >> >> >> country under a 1998 law
targeting violators of religious
>> >> >> >> >> rights.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> U.S. officials said on Friday
the Bush administration had
>> >> >> >> >> decided
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> delay
>> >> >> >> >> imposing sanctions on Saudi
Arabia for six months.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> In a rare official rebuke a
year ago, Washington designated
>> >> >> >> >> Saudi
>> >> >> > Arabia
>> >> >> >> > as
>> >> >> >> >> one of only eight countries
worldwide that could be
> sanctioned.
>> > The
>> >> >> >> >> blacklisting in an annual
report said religious freedom did
> not
>> >> > exist
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> kingdom.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> With this year's report due
out next month, the Bush
>> > administration
>> >> >> >> >> needed
>> >> >> >> >> to decide on sanctioning Saudi
Arabia and chose to give the
>> > kingdom
>> >> > a
>> >> >> >> >> further six months to
negotiate how it might improve its
> record.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "We have not seen strong
progress in the area of legal
>> >> >> >> >> protection
>> >> > for
>> >> >> >> >> religious freedom," State
Department spokesman Kurtis Cooper
>> > said.
>> >> >> > "(But)
>> >> >> >> > we
>> >> >> >> >> welcome Saudi recognition of
the need to make improvements
>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> > create
>> >> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> > more
>> >> >> >> >> tolerant society."
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> With high oil prices affecting
the U.S. economy and dragging
> on
>> >> >> >> >> President George W. Bush's
popularity, Democrats have charged
> he
>> >> >> >> >> has
>> >> >> >> > largely
>> >> >> >> >> ignored Saudi Arabia's rights
record for fear of causing any
>> >> > backlash
>> >> >> >> >> from
>> >> >> >> >> the oil supplier.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Prominent Saudis dismiss as
politically motivated U.S.
> criticism
>> > of
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> country's strict Wahhabi brand of Islam.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> In contrast to its decision on
Saudi Arabia, the United
>> >> >> >> >> States
>> >> > decided
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> sanction Eritrea by banning
military exports to the Horn of
>> > Africa
>> >> >> >> > country,
>> >> >> >> >> the officials said.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Vietnam, the third country
added to the blacklist last year,
> has
>> >> >> > avoided
>> >> >> >> >> sanctions after agreeing to
improve its record, they added.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> The other countries the United
States considers serious
>> >> >> >> >> violators
>> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> religious freedom are   North
Korea, Myanmar, Sudan,   Iran
> and
>> >> > China.
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