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echo: pol_inc
to: TIM RICHARDSON
from: Bob Ackley
date: 2009-05-18 05:59:14
subject: Re-examining Torture ...

Replying to a message of TIM RICHARDSON to BOB ACKLEY:

 TR> On 05-16-09, BOB ACKLEY said to JOHN FITZGERALD:

 JF>>   This begs the question...why would they continue to use
 JF>> waterboarding,  etc, all of these years if it didn't work??    I

 BA>> Because they're a bunch of sadistic psychopaths that get their
 BA>> jollies by doing things like that.  Those are the folks you're
 BA>> defending, John.

 TR> People who push people in wheel chairs off of cruise ships into the
 TR> ocean;



 TR> Those sorts are a bunch of sadistic psychopaths that get their jollies
 TR> by doing things like that. Those are the folks you are defending,
 TR> Ackley.

I don't defend *any* of those "people", Richardson.  I simply refuse to
engage in or condone similar behavior just because they do it.  Your heroes
have literally beaten at least three people to death with your 'enhanced
interrogation' techniques and left another one to freeze to death while
chained naked to the floor of an unheated cell overnight in subfreezing
weather.

Torture interrogation doesn't work, it gives answers but the answers aren't
necessarily true.

 TR> A few of them got made `a bit uncomfortable' during an interrogation?

I like your description of being beaten to death.  And it's absolutely predictable.

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