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echo: pol_inc
to: BOB ACKLEY
from: TIM RICHARDSON
date: 2009-05-19 18:37:00
subject: Re-examining Torture ...

On 05-18-09, BOB ACKLEY said to TIM RICHARDSON:


BA>I don't defend *any* of those "people", Richardson.


Well you certainly don't seem to have any `ill' feelings toward them.


BA>I simply refuse to
BA>engage in or condone similar behavior just because they do it.


I don't. I can still see in my minds eye the immages of those two jumbo jets
swerving around and aiming into the World Trade Center twin towers.


The images of firemen and cops dragging victims out of the still standing,
burning structures, then plunging back into the inferno, many to never be seen
again, is still vivid in my memory.


If you think the way to deal with rabid animals is to try making friends with
it, you're gonna need a lot of rabies shots.


BA>Your heroes have literally beaten at least three people to death with your
BA>'enhanced interrogation' techniques and left another one to freeze to
BA>death while chained naked to the floor of an unheated cell overnight in
BA>subfreezing weather.


First of all, save the shock value bullshit for the kiddies. I don't know for
a fact that any such things happened, and I doubt you do either.


BA>Torture interrogation doesn't work, it gives answers but the answers
BA>aren't necessarily true.


Secondly, if anyone commits deliberate murder, there have been instances of
individuals being put on trial in the past. There has been a series of trials
going on right here at Camp Pendleton for that very thing.


Plus....those who did things considered improper were disciplined. I seem to
recall a general was relieved and several others disciplined.


So your hyperventilation about other people's `heroes' is meaningless,
partisan crapola.


TR> A few of them got made `a bit uncomfortable' during an interrogation?


BA>I like your description of being beaten to death.  And it's absolutely
BA>predictable.


I like your extrapolation of `a bit uncomfortable' into `being beaten to
death'.


The subject wasn't `being beaten to death'.....it was *waterboarding*. Try to
keep up.



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