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from: Mark
date: 2007-03-26 15:03:46
subject: Re: Iran `to try Britons for espionage`

From: "Mark" 

"Now if the Iranians actually attacked Coalition forces it could be a
different matter."

So, if the Brits were armed and resisted it'd have been an attack, but
since they weren't it isn't?

"Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
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>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
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>>
>> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
>> news:4607e372$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>
>>> "Phil Payne"
 wrote in message
>>> news:4607e017$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> Rooting for? What an odd question. I believe that UK Forces were
>>>>> within
>>>>> Iraqi territorial waters.
>>>>
>>>> They boarded a moving ship and then got off.  Wanna bet they were in
>>>> Iraqi/international waters when they got on, and in
Iranian waters when
>>>> they
>>>> got off, which was when they were taken.
>>>>
>>>> Also wanna bet the Iranians have been very carefully watching their
>>>> coastal
>>>> radar for just such a combination of circumstances for months.
>>>>
>>>> They want their people back, and the coalition has not been
>>>> co-operated. You
>>>> sew the wind, you reap the whirlwind.
>>>>
>>>> I find it interesting that they snatched Britons.  That
shows they're
>>>> thinking - not giving Shrub any excuses.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Phil, think about it. A hostile nation has just kidnapped and is holding
>>> hostage 15 of our valiant war on terror allies. People who were in harms
>>> way to help protect  our forces in Iraq. They have attacked the
>>> Coalition. Sounds like an excellent excuse to me. If the Administration
>>> wants an excuse they will find one (unfortunately)
>>
>> It's unfortunate that the administration will find an excuse? That seems
>> bassakwards to me Bob, why don't you consider it unfortunate that the
>> Iranians, who have already been provoking the world with multiple causis
>> belli, have now added 15 more to the list? Yes causis belli, not excuses.
>>
>>
>
> Yes I used the word excuse, as Phil did and I pointed out that the
> administration could use this as an excuse. I don't consider this a causis
> belli for war with Iran. If you want to think that it is then consider
> those who we have kidnapped and held for years before releasing them. Do
> you consider those actions to be causis belli for Germany, Great Britain,
> Pakistan etc to take action against the US ? After all they were citizens
> of those countries. Now if the Iranians actually attacked Coalition forces
> it could be a different matter.
>
>
>

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