RG> Our low light shoots were that way.  In the house searches
RG> they'd use targets with a subject holding a gun high and a
I don't do house searches!  No easier way to get dead.
Of course I'm not paid to do them and am not equipped
for it.

Back when I was in ROTC we were all given different
size units (from squad to company) missions but we all
had the same assets.  My mission was to clear a sniper
out of an urban neighborhood area with a squad.  No
problem.  I just got on the radio and called in an
artillery strike and requested mixed HE quick and HE
delayed.  I thought about adding a few Willie Petes for
effect but decided against it.
You know what?  The instructor told me I hadn't done
the problem correctly.  Said I had caused "excessive
collateral damage" and I was supposed to do a house to
house search until I located the sniper. 
I told him that I thought my job was 1) to complete the
mission given me and 2) to protect my troops to the
best of my ability as long as it didn't interfere with
rule #1.  I pointed out to him that I had followed both
rules.  Why should I put troops in the very dangerous
situation of house to house fighting when I had
artillery available?  We had a quite lively debate
going and in the end he just gave me a different
mission. 
I used artillery and close air support in it.  :)
RG> Our combat course at the Academy revealed how true that was.
RG>  They also used our vehicles to shoot over and from.  I was
RG> picking 9mm casings out of mine for months, one of the other
RG> officers vans got shot, right in the master cylinder. 
I guess they thought you'd be more careful it if it was
YOUR car you might hit.  Guess they were wrong.
BTW, did they try the 'all good guys' scenario?  I have
always wanted to try that with a high tech set up.
 RW> But goblins aren't your average citizen.  They KNOW
 RW> they are going to be shot at and when.  The same for
RG> I think the worst part of these bulletins is these guys are
RG> running around, time bombs waiting to go off, and a lot of
RG> times they go off around the average folks.  One wears a
RG> vest, is know to carry three handguns, two shotguns and a
RG> AR15.  Russian mafia type...
There was several articles some time ago about handgun
rounds that were designed to penetrate soft body armor,
provide fairly good tissue damage and did not over
penetrate hard targets.  From what I remember they
worked well but the manufacturing process was so
expensive that police departments couldn't afford them.
(I don't want to get into the actual design here in an
open echo but it was simple once you thought about it.)
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