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to: MATT MUNSON
from: BOB KLAHN
date: 2011-07-18 19:21:12
subject: No Thanks TSA

MM> Recently when waiting for the bus near Chaffey College, I
 MM> saw a new announcement from Omnitrans which made me think
 MM> of what might happen in the future for what was announced.
 MM> The TSA is going to invade our bus systems no matter if its
 MM> MTA in Los Angeles to Omnitrans in San Bernardino County.

 The question is, do we not have security on our trains, and take
 the chance, or do we have security, and take the intrusion?

 Need to look at how they do it in England, they delt with that
 for generations.

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 MM> for everyone. Our world changed on Sept. 11,
 MM> 2001.  We learned that our country and its transit
 MM> systems are not immune from terrorist attacks.

 Nor immune to the damage done by the protection against those
 terrorists.

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 MM> more at omnitrans.org for their statement, (commentary
 MM> continues) If you like the TSA's work at your local
 MM> airports you will love the TSA at the subway, at the bus
 MM> station and any other places you thought you could escape
 MM> the TSA so you can preserve your dignity.

 MM> Many people are not happy with the abuses the TSA have done
 MM> such as feeling up six year olds and causing an incontinent
 MM> 95 year old lady with cancer to take off her wet diaper.

 Yet there have been cases where children and babies have been
 used as human bombs.

 MM> I know we want a safe transportation system, and I know we
 MM> do not want bus stations or buses have to endure suicide
 MM> bombers, as the case with the British with the IRA, or the
 MM> Israelis with the Palestinian radicals.

 Exactly what I am talking about.

 MM> However there should be a way to preserve our dignity while
 MM> still maintaining security. Because for the people who have
 MM> drivers licenses and access to a vehicle, they will just
 MM> suffer the sticker shock at the pump and keep on driving
 MM> and air quality be darned.

 If it could be done, I suspect the Brits and Israelis would have
 done it.

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 MM> just take lessons from the Israelis instead of following
 MM> the TSA playbook.

 Oh, yeah, you already said that.

 MM> Libertarians, conservatives and even progressives should be
 MM> wary of this.

 Libertarians and progressives are more in tune on this than
 conservatives are.

 MM> VIPR teams may result in being felt up in the
 MM> name of security, but it can also lead to la migra where
 MM> some San Diego teens were deported due to these screenings.

 Were they illegal? Is that a problem?

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BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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