From: "Mark"
Well, I've been reading the two brothers at Iraq the Model for a long, long
time and they've been very credible in their assessments of what's going
down on the ground, so I think I'll take their word on the likelihood of
the accuracy of the poll.
"Rich Gauszka" wrote in message
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> One can easily skew a poll but the one we were talking about was
> commissioned by the British Defense Ministry that was leaked to the media.
> It was far more negative than I expected.
>
>
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> "Mark" wrote in message
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>> LOL, no merely pointing out that we have no idea how the questions were
>> asked, nor to whom, so the results aren't very reliable. i.e. Do you want
>> a million dollars? Yes!! Do you want a million dollars if you have to
>> give up your legs? There'd still be some, maybe even quite a few
>> affirmatives, but it'd no longer be 100%. > increased to a billion dollars, it might get back to 100% since you could
>> buy some pretty fancy femers and have plenty leftover>
>>
>>
>> "Rich Gauszka" wrote in message
>> news:435ebd94$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> Why would you add Saddam into the leave immediately question? Skewing
>>> the poll with Bushian logic?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark" wrote in message
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>>>>I wonder how the results would go if the question were
phrased: "The
>>>>U.S. is leaving tomorrow and releasing Saddam to his
primary palace with
>>>>a battalion of his former loyal troops, do you still want
them to leave?
>>>>Yes___ No___
>>>>
>>>> "Rich Gauszka" wrote
in message
>>>> news:435ead69$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mark" wrote in message
>>>>> news:435ea773$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> > "...for example saying that "82
per cent are "strongly opposed" to
>>>>>> the presence of coalition troops" is a pretty
much tricky sentence
>>>>>> because while I do think that maybe even 90% of
the people in any
>>>>>> country do not want foreign troops on their land, it remains
>>>>>> important to state whether a time interval was
included in the
>>>>>> question or not. If not, then the question was
designed to give a
>>>>>> misleading result and if there was one, then it
should have appeared
>>>>>> along with the results.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I mean it could be true or close to the truth that
82% of Iraqis do
>>>>>> not want the troops to stay indefinitely but if it
was meant to say
>>>>>> that 82% want the troops to leave now then I
assure you that the
>>>>>> results have been forged. Moreover, there are some
contradictions
>>>>>> among the results, look at this one closely
"43 per cent of Iraqis
>>>>>> believe conditions for peace and stability have
worsened" this means
>>>>>> that 57% of the answers either indicated that
stability and peace
>>>>>> have improved or they have not changed ..."
>>>>>>
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2005/10/polls-can-we-rely-on-them.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Last year 71% wished us to leave immediately - 81% if
the Kurds were
>>>>> excluded so it doesn't look like those numbers have
changed. I'll
>>>>> admit I am surprised at the number that supposedly
supports attacks as
>>>>> way more Iraqis are hurt than coalition forces
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0429/dailyUpdate.html
>>>>>
>>>>> To get a sense of what Iraqis were thinking a year
after the overthrow
>>>>> of former dictator Saddam Hussein, researchers for the Gallup
>>>>> Organization, working with funding from CNN and USA
Today, sat down
>>>>> with 3444 Iraqis in March and early April (before the
latest outbreaks
>>>>> of violence). They conducted interviews that lasted as
long as 70
>>>>> minutes (often at great personal risk). And what they
found does not
>>>>> bode well in the short-term for the US and its allies in Iraq,
>>>>> although it may bode well for the future of Iraq as a democracy
>>>>>
>>>>> Other telling findings of the survey were that an overwhelming
>>>>> majority of Iraqis, 71 percent (and that figure rises
to 81 percent if
>>>>> the Kurdish areas in the north are excluded), now see the US-led
>>>>> coalition as an occupying force and not as liberators. USA Today
>>>>> reports that a solid majority, almost 60 percent, want
the US and its
>>>>> allies to leave immediately, even if it means the
security situation
>>>>> will deteriorate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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