From: "Robert G Lewis" 


"Gary Wiltshire"  wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:59:59 -0400, Robert G Lewis 
> wrote:
>
>> Yep  But I don't know about the Kennedy. There have been numerous
>> allegations about another Blue Blood family. I do NOT know how true they
>> are
>> and have not read much but There are definitely ties between some
>> members of
>> the Bush Family and Germany during the 30's. Also IBM. The American Bund
>> iirc was rather active as well.
>>
>> Had Japan not attacked us I doubt we would have entered the European war.
>> IIRC there was some seriously opposition to Lend Lease prior to 1941.
>>
>>
>
> http://hnn.us/articles/697.html
> Joseph Kennedy and the Jews
> By Edward Renehan, Jr.
>
> Mr. Renehan's most recent book is The Kennedys at War, 1937-1945,
> published in April 2002 by Doubleday.
>
> Arriving at London in early 1938, newly-appointed U.S. Ambassador Joseph
> P. Kennedy took up quickly with another transplanted American. Viscountess
> Nancy Witcher Langhorne Astor assured Kennedy early in their friendship
> that he should not be put off by her pronounced and proud
> anti-Catholicism.
>
> "I'm glad you are smart enough not to take my [views] personally," she
> wrote. Astor pointed out that she had a number of Roman Catholic friends -
> G.K. Chesterton among them - with whom she shared, if nothing else, a
> profound hatred for the Jewish race. Joe Kennedy, in turn, had always
> detested Jews generally, although he claimed several as friends
> individually. Indeed, Kennedy seems to have tolerated the occasional Jew
> in the same way Astor tolerated the occasional Catholic.
>
> As fiercely anti-Communist as they were anti-Semitic, Kennedy and Astor
> looked upon Adolf Hitler as a welcome solution to both of these "world
> problems" (Nancy's phrase). No member of the so-called
"Cliveden Set" (the
> informal cabal of appeasers who met frequently at Nancy Astor's palatial
> home) seemed much concerned with the dilemma faced by Jews under the
> Reich. Astor wrote Kennedy that Hitler would have to do more than just
> "give a rough time" to "the killers of Christ"
before she'd be in favor of
> launching "Armageddon to save them. The wheel of history swings round as
> the Lord would have it. Who are we to stand in the way of the future?"
> Kennedy replied that he expected the "Jew media" in the
United States to
> become a problem, that "Jewish pundits in New York and Los
Angeles" were
> already making noises contrived to "set a match to the fuse of
the world."
>
> During May of 1938, Kennedy engaged in extensive discussions with the new
> German Ambassador to the Court of St. James's, Herbert von Dirksen. In the
> midst of these conversations (held without approval from the U.S. State
> Department), Kennedy advised von Dirksen that President Roosevelt was the
> victim of "Jewish influence" and was poorly informed as to
the philosophy,
> ambitions and ideals of Hitler's regime. (The Nazi ambassador subsequently
> told his bosses that Kennedy was "Germany's best friend" in London.)
>
> Columnists back in the states condemned Kennedy's fraternizing. Kennedy
> later claimed that 75% of the attacks made on him during his
> Ambassadorship emanated from "a number of Jewish publishers and writers.
> ... Some of them in their zeal did not hesitate to resort to slander and
> falsehood to achieve their aims." He told his eldest son, Joe Jr., that he
> disliked having to put up with "Jewish columnists" who
criticized him with
> no good reason.
>
> Like his father, Joe Jr. admired Adolf Hitler. Young Joe had come away
> impressed by Nazi rhetoric after traveling in Germany as a student in
> 1934. Writing at the time, Joe applauded Hitler's insight in realizing the
> German people's "need of a common enemy, someone of whom to make the goat.
> Someone, by whose riddance the Germans would feel they had cast out the
> cause of their predicament. It was excellent psychology, and it was too
> bad that it had to be done to the Jews. The dislike of the Jews, however,
> was well-founded. They were at the heads of all big business, in law etc.
> It is all to their credit for them to get so far, but their methods had
> been quite unscrupulous ... the lawyers and prominent judges were Jews,
> and if you had a case against a Jew, you were nearly always sure to lose
> it. ... As far as the brutality is concerned, it must have been necessary
> to use some ... ."
>
> Brutality was in the eye of the beholder. Writing to Charles Lindbergh
> shortly after Kristallnacht in November of 1938, Joe Kennedy Sr. seemed
> more concerned about the political ramifications stemming from
> high-profile, riotous anti-Semitism than he was about the actual violence
> done to the Jews. "... Isn't there some way," he asked,
"to persuade [the
> Nazis] it is on a situation like this that the whole program of saving
> western civilization might hinge? It is more and more difficult for those
> seeking peaceful solutions to advocate any plan when the papers are filled
> with such horror." Clearly, Kennedy's chief concern about Kristallnacht
> was that it might serve to harden anti-fascist sentiment at home in the
> United States.
>
> Like his friend Charles Coughlin (an anti-Semitic broadcaster and Roman
> Catholic priest), Kennedy always remained convinced of what he believed to
> be the Jews' corrupt, malignant, and profound influence in American
> culture and politics. "The Democratic [party] policy of the United States
> is a Jewish production," Kennedy told a British reporter near the end of
> 1939, adding confidently that Roosevelt would "fall" in 1940.
>
> But it wasn't Roosevelt who fell. Kennedy resigned his ambassadorship just
> weeks after FDR's overwhelming triumph at the polls. He then retreated to
> his home in Florida: a bitter, resentful man nurturing religious and
> racial bigotries that put him out-of-step with his country, and
> out-of-touch with history.
> --
> Gary Wiltshire

Interesting, I knew Joseph Kennedy was a disreputable character but not how
much. I had forgotten some of what little I knew.

Thanks, I may have to look for the book.

Bob Lewis

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