From: "Mark" 

You're entitled to that opinion. It's not reality based, but you're still
entitled to it 

"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:43603802$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> You miss my point too. I'm merely saying that the *argument* that our own
>> troops will meet with greater torture because we don't follow the GC, is
>> specious. Our POWs will be tortured and beheaded regardless.
>
> I suspect that it's the exact opposite. Sure, some will happen since we
> aren't dealing with a central authority and mob mentality things just
> happen, but if we use torture, it's only going to ferment more from people
> that might not have used torture before.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:43603435$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> You miss my point too. I'm merely saying that the *argument* that our own
>> troops will meet with greater torture because we don't follow the GC, is
>> specious. Our POWs will be tortured and beheaded regardless.
>>
>> This does not mean that I advocate not following the GC where
>> appropriate. Nor does it mean that when not following the GC because it
>> doesn't apply, translates to torture of POWs.
>>
>>
>> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
>> news:43603199{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> You miss my point John, whether we follow it or not, they won't.
>>>
>>> We're supposed to be better than them...
>>>
>>>>nor am I for giving those GC considerations to POWs that
don't qualify
>>>>for them
>>>
>>> I sure am, it's the right thing to do.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>> news:43601d34$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> You miss my point John, whether we follow it or not, they
won't. That's
>>>> a fact. So using that argument, that they'll mistreat our
POWs because
>>>> we don't, as a point for why we should, isn't relevant.
>>> I'm not for torture, nor am I for giving those GC considerations to
>>>> POWs that don't qualify for them>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "John Cuccia"  wrote in message
>>>> news:5f60m1hu2optq0mf1b1tcqu5o9jhtvobj2{at}4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:55:22 -0400, "Mark"
 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Has any other country at any time, in any war, ever
followed the
>>>>>>Geneva
>>>>>>Conventions in their treatment of our prisoners of
war? Has any
>>>>>>stateless
>>>>>>terrorist group ever done so? Do you really think
if we hire bi-planes
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>tow banners across the world that we absolutely
follow the Geneva
>>>>>>Conventions in all cases, even when not warranted,
that any less heads
>>>>>>will
>>>>>>be cut off on video?
>>>>>
>>>>> That's irrelevant.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are signatories to the Geneva Convention.  We, the
United States of
>>>>> America, are either a principled nation whose word can
be trusted or
>>>>> we are liars and cheats.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which do you prefer we be?
>>>>>
>>>>>>the reasoning above is simply faulty
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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