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echo: nopiracy
to: MARTIN BISHOP
from: RYAN BAGUEROS
date: 1997-08-07 09:01:00
subject: Re: Pir8s in my area

*** Quoting Martin Bishop from a message to Ryan Bagueros ***
MB> whatever try  to crack the freakin pwd file on a Sparc or whatever!! 
MB> No one in the so called  "hp world" would think of ever wasting thier 
MB> time with b.s. like that, just  like warez, because hackers are very 
MB> busy people - don't have time for petty  games - and for ignort sons 
MB> of bitches like you. Damn good at what they do???  Which is sit on a 
Now, please try to remember that I agreed that there is a lot of that in the 
wares scene. But the ones who really know what they're doing (individuals you 
obviously have never had contact with) are the ones with the resources to get 
the software on or near its release date, edit/crack the code to break any 
copyright protection, etc. Its probably quite a bit of work and you could 
probably make a living from it.
MB> who said that phreaking was about making free phone calls??? Instead 
MB> of  ripping off the phone companies, most phreakers would prefer to 
MB> see how it  works, get jobs from it, have it pay them (get a job and 
MB> get away from the  computer). No one i know who is a "real" phreaker 
MB> is someone who is justout  there to make free phone calls...the phone 
MB> system is a very interesting thing,  much more interesting than any 
It is inconceivable that you've ever had experience with "phreaking" that 
wasn't a) illegal or b) costing a company money. As Super-Moral-Phreak, did 
you
ever call an 800# to a private company? Even just to "explore" the system, as 
you say, you didn't pay for it. Ever use a VMB? Really, anytime you would 
poke 
around a system and *ever* accessed an account that wasn't yours, or played 
with functions that weren't for the general public, you violated your own 
stupid moral code. That's kind of odd ... I suppose your views on piracy are 
flexible in some way?
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